ATLAS and UPS

[Rhoid]

JACKA$$!!!
My wiener is bigger than yours!!!

So, I will still be senior to ANY Atlas/Polar pilot!

 

[Whale Rider]

I'll be hired before they staple you guys, so you'll be junior to me!

Someone call an ambulance Rhoid is Dreaming again and he's slipped into a Coma!!!

 

[Rhoid]

Honest question... What do you think would happen to the Atlas/Polar pilots if UPS does buy them?

 

[Whale Rider]

Honest question... What do you think would happen to the Atlas/Polar pilots if UPS does buy them?

You won't get hired!! hahahahahah!

 

[Rhoid]

quit being a smarta$$ and answer the question, do you guys think that you will be integrated into the IPA seniority list by DOH or something or stapled or what?

 

[flybrowntails]

Really hate to jump into the middle of this conversation...but...

the what and if's are not decided on this forum board.

Rhoid: you said ask any ups pilot-- i just so happen to be any ups pilot.
Man, chill out. You are really acting like a tool. I don't know what your deal is but until you dress in brown pj's let it go. OR are you a mngt. type fishing for info--either way nobodys impressed.

 

[b747dogg]

Well i'm going to get hired as a management pilot someday and fire RHOID.
YOU'RE FIRED!!!!

UPS can have you!!!!

 

[FreightNazi]

Well i'm going to get hired as a management pilot someday and fire RHOID.
YOU'RE FIRED!!!!

UPS can have you!!!!

Trust me on this, as much as you might want to fire Rhoid, you DO NOT want to sell your soul to UPS to become a management pilot.

 

[FearlessFreep]

Rhoid,
You still jaw-jacking about getting on with UPS? I thought you were already there! I mean you must have missed about 3 classes since you have been telling us that you are a shoo-in. Maybe your not of legal age yet.

What's that stuff on your nose? It's the same color of chocolate but doesn't appear to be just that.

Adios!

 

[waazzuuuup!!]

is it Rhoid, or Hemrhoid?

Just wondering!

 

[waazzuuuup!!]

$29.00 dollars a share today!!!!!


Kewl

 

[Clyde]

But UPS would most likely be interested only in the -400s and Polar's route authority. Ask ANY UPS pilot and they will surely tell you that UPS is not willingly hiring, management still thinks they are adequately staffed. If UPS was forced to take the Atlas/Polar group, an influx of over 900 pilots would surely lead to furloughs. Plus the IPA would be in no mood to integrate lists, the best you could hope for would be a staple, so you can guess where the furloughs would come from.

Rhoid,
I'll give this one a shot.

If, and that is a big if, we were to buy anything from Atlas or Polar, I don't think the -400's would be part of the deal. I've heard around here several times that UPS would more than likely just go after the route authority and purchase the airframes elsewhere. Converted 400's from PAX to cargo would be better I was told because they are cheaper and we don't currently have a need for a 747 with a swinging nose.

As far as any type of pilot integration. Remember, UPS isn't an airline in the same way as Atlas, Polar, Northwest, etc. If UPS were to purchase Atlas/Polar, it's not like when AA purchased TWA. What you have is a giant shipping conglomerate purchasing the assets of a smaller airline. The employees do not necessarily have to be part of the deal. In the AA/TWA purchase, you had two companies who, for all practical purposes, were identical in their structure and business plans. i.e., they were both strictly companies set up to fly passengers from point A to point B. The UPS airline is just one component of something much, much greater.

I've been here 5 years, and I don't know UPS to be a company to hire just anyone because of a purchase. They like to have control, and they are very specific about who they hire to fly their airplanes. Would they offer interviews? Who knows, but as far as I know, I don't see ANYBODY flying a UPS airplane without at least first being interviewed. And then, after being interviewed AND selected, they would be placed in seniority based on their date of hire at UPS.

Personally, I don't have any reason to believe there will be a complete purchase of Atlas/Polar. Realistically, we'll probably purchase airframes sitting out in the desert and add them into the fleet. If anything, we may purchase the route authority from Atlas/Polar if we need it.

And as far as staffing, the company sees us as being staffed correctly and the union still sees us as needing more people. The company is the one who initiates the hiring.

 

[FearlessFreep]

Just a quick note I believe that the Narita slots that Polar holds are specific to Polar only and cannot be "sold"

 

[Whale Rider]

Just a quick note I believe that the Narita slots that Polar holds are specific to Polar only and cannot be "sold"

You believe Correctly................

 

[boomlrd]

Guys don't worry about Rhoid, he is a loser who goes around on this board with nothing better to do than flamebait. e is the same clown who claimed that (CAT), Custom Air Transport, would be out of Dayton due to the UPS purchase of Menlo. Well I am still flying in Dayton and UPS just re upped our contract for another 5 years, because we haul hazardous cargo and packages over 70lbs which UPS cannot. This guy is probably just some CFI dreamer who thinks he knows about the industry more than those who work there. The crap he says makes no sense and you are all right that he would never get a job at UPS, not even a bottom feeder like CAT will have him. I use these boards to try and get somewhat of a clue as to whats going on out there and small time CFI's like him make it out like they know what is going on and just garbage up message boards. I hope to find out who he is, so I can do my part in making sure he is never hired here, I think I have seen his resume' at CAT before, not a chance! Get a life Rhoid!!