Atlantic Southeast updates?

[701EV]

Why would Delta want to sell Compass or Mesaba? Two less regionals to have to pay for flying, since they already own the jets?

Delta needs cash to buy airplanes.

 

[johnpeace]

If any growth for ASA were in the cards, we would be hiring now while simultaneously recalling all furloughs.

Because they ALWAYS plan ahead for staffing needs, right?

Oh, wait...no they don't. They wait until the last moment and make it an emergency event.

 

[RiddleRat]

Would the sale of Compass or Mesaba null/void out their Flow Thru? I understand Delta wants cash, but selling a wholy owned regional where it costs them much less to run than outsource to another non-wholly owned company seems as if it would cost them a lot more $ in the long run.

 

[777forever]

Yup, this is the "what's about to happen" I've been talking about for the past few months. Its a good sign that SH and the Chief Pilots are talking about it openly now. Must mean its getting close to sealing the deal and an announcement. Anyone know if they've called DR(The guy in charge of the hiring department) back from fishing yet?

 

[CheeseHead13]

If Skywest Inc. were to aquire Compass and merge them with ASA it wouldn't be pretty. Expect date of hire integration with the pilot groups and nothing less. That would put every Compass captain back as first officer.

 

[spudskier]

best I can tell Compass deal is dead... SkyWest DOES want to enter 75-125 seat market over the next 5-10 years

"other options are swirling" (~SH)

 

[NotTooBad]

DR retired.

 

[CaribPilot]

Would the sale of Compass or Mesaba null/void out their Flow Thru? I understand Delta wants cash, but selling a wholy owned regional where it costs them much less to run than outsource to another non-wholly owned company seems as if it would cost them a lot more $ in the long run.

From what i understand...the flow through stays intact with the sale of either of those airlines, the buyer would inherit it. It would be in the best interest to keep a flowthrough with the amount of retirements coming up.

 

[buscap]

I have a feeling Big D would love to get rid of the flow thru and that is very much part of the motivation for punching off that wholly owned.

If it can be done, they'll find a way.

 

[777forever]

I have a feeling Big D would love to get rid of the flow thru and that is very much part of the motivation for punching off that wholly owned.

If it can be done, they'll find a way.

The flowthru is between the unions at each company. Can't be eliminated thru selling the company. DAL would have to liquidate Mesaba and Compass to eliminate the flowthru. Doubtful that will happen.

 

[701EV]

Anyone know if they've called DR(The guy in charge of the hiring department) back from fishing yet?

DR's not coming back. They have new folks to run HR.

 

[Freebrd]

DR is a big ole turd, worst CP we ever had

 

[enuffalready]

Using ASA's current staffing model, the 450 number can't be right. If we are getting 30 new aircraft, they would only hire about 4 pilots to staff them.

Have to give kudos when someone makes me laugh out loud.

 

[www.]

Would the sale of Compass or Mesaba null/void out their Flow Thru? I understand Delta wants cash, but selling a wholy owned regional where it costs them much less to run than outsource to another non-wholly owned company seems as if it would cost them a lot more $ in the long run.

No. Every year it costs DAL more and more to operate these DCIs that they own. Increase in CBA costs and many others.

 

[www.]

If Skywest Inc. were to aquire Compass and merge them with ASA it wouldn't be pretty. Expect date of hire integration with the pilot groups and nothing less. That would put every Compass captain back as first officer.

If there were a merge of the lists, DOH, there would be a fence to protect their current position.

As positions open on a E175 and more senior guys move over the Compass guys would be on RES for a very, very long time.

 

[www.]

The flowthru is between the unions at each company. Can't be eliminated thru selling the company. DAL would have to liquidate Mesaba and Compass to eliminate the flowthru. Doubtful that will happen.

Yes and no. There is only 1 union and it is apart of the CBAs with the Companies so the CBAs stay if sold but when the amendable dates come up it's always up for negotiations.

 

[www.]

DR is a big ole turd, worst CP we ever had

Did you forget about KR? The wash your underwear out in the sink KR.

 

[IFLYASA]

Would the sale of Compass or Mesaba null/void out their Flow Thru? I understand Delta wants cash, but selling a wholy owned regional where it costs them much less to run than outsource to another non-wholly owned company seems as if it would cost them a lot more $ in the long run.

I've always wondered about this. It "appears" if you own outright, it would be cheaper. Example... At ASA, we have no rampers/gate agents in Atlanta. It's just us pilots/F/A/Mechanics, and office people. We make money based on the fee's for departure. If Delta bought us back, they don't pay the fee's for departure (cheaper for Delta), and you eliminate the middle man (Skywest Inc). That's less overhead for Delta.

Obviously this can be proven wrong, or it would seem Delta would own their regionals outright.

 

[Abernathy]

Did you forget about KR? The wash your underwear out in the sink KR.

The only people who get treated like this are the people that allow it.

It would also help for our MEC to stop playing softball with the company.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

DR is a big ole turd, worst CP we ever had

Nah that has to be BS. He's happy now with his best buddy SH over in the G.O.!