ATI grounded ??

[Jurasicpilot]

I heard it was something about engine fires (on CFM's ????) with in flight shut downs. Not typical

Once you ATI guys figure it out dont be shy about it. Lots of CFM's out there and inquiring minds want to know. I assume its the CFM because you guys retired the 60's a while back I think.

 

[dsee8driver]

We've been plagued by false fire warnings that have lead to engine shutdowns. The Fire loops have been replaced with repeat occurrences on the same engines. ATI grounded the 70's fleet voluntarily to try to find a solution to the problems. Hopefully they will find the solution soon...

 

[propsarebest]

Hey, what's the story with the -72 that was at MCC?

 

[Jurasicpilot]

Sounds like they are using -5a or later parts etc on a CFM56-2. I wish there were some mx guys on here.

 

[Flyer8]

We have not grounded our 60 series Combi's. They are gainfully employed doing AMC flying. The one 72 series
Combi we own is currently in C Check...The other 72 Combi is in storage for an indefinite period.(no engines)

 

[Dick Cabeza]

Do you think this "grounding" thing is going to drive you out of business?

 

[l8fr82hub]

Hopefully not. After scrambling fire trucks at major airports all over the world the company now realizes there is a problem and is throwing all their resources at it. I don't think the FAA or BAX will tolerate many more of these particular issues. The military is more tolerant (they have C-17s after all).

 

[l8fr82hub]

Sounds like they are using -5a or later parts etc on a CFM56-2. I wish there were some mx guys on here.

Would you please elaborate? Specific parts and what is incompatible?

 

[pilotpm]

How many airframes are affected by this?

 

[b707guy]

How many airframes are affected by this?

We have 13 -71s. Interesting possibility that an incorrect but similar part could be the culprit. The focus has been on the condition of the loops themselves and on bad connections. We won't shut down because of this.

 

[Browntothebone]

We have 13 -71s. Interesting possibility that an incorrect but similar part could be the culprit. The focus has been on the condition of the loops themselves and on bad connections. We won't shut down because of this.

But, if you've been flying around with the wrong parts, the Feds will give you a hefty fine for sure.

 

[jmreii]

But, if you've been flying around with the wrong parts, the Feds will give you a hefty fine for sure.

or use an emergency order to ground you quickly!

 

[haulingthemail]

I heard a rumor, and it's just that, a rumor. That this problem begain after the wiring bundles were rearranged like they had to do on the MD-80. Supposedly the same wiring mess that affected the MD-80s had to be accomplished on the DC8 and then this fireloop problem started. Anyway it's just a rumor.

 

[b707guy]

First, meant to say 13 -70's, not -71s, and that's up to the feds if they want to fine us. If the vendor (we've had plenty of supply source problems...) provided the wrong parts, maybe we'll be held less accountable.

 

[Mama's Boy]

Any idea how long the aircraft will be down?

Are they talking about an inspection to look for suspect parts?

Or, are the aircraft down until a fleet wide solution is found?

If the latter is true, this is another big hit to the ATSG group.

 

[l8fr82hub]

Most inspections/corrections are complete. Six airplanes are now back online and the remaining airplanes are awaiting parts and should be back online by tomorrow night.

 

[pilotpm]

Most inspections/corrections are complete. Six airplanes are now back online and the remaining airplanes are awaiting parts and should be back online by tomorrow night.

Very good news. Glad to see ATI jumping on this and getting it squared away in a hurry.

 

[727flier]

Lol

Hopefully not. After scrambling fire trucks at major airports all over the world the company now realizes there is a problem and is throwing all their resources at it. I don't think the FAA or BAX will tolerate many more of these particular issues. The military is more tolerant (they have C-17s after all).

That was ugly...........as a 141 FE (gone to the dark side...lol) turned load and a 757 FO we have not had any inadvertent fire warnings on our C-17's.....

 

[pipejockey]

or use an emergency order to ground you quickly!

Thats is unless you're southworst. Oh the humanity if they ever shut those snakes down like they did to AA for some ridiculous wire bundling problems, not once but twice!! While southworst continues to fly without the proper inspections stemming from the aloha accident for who knows how long.