Master of the Cowbell
- Dec 11, 2001
- Total Time
Does anyone have info on whether ATA is interviewing or hiring??? Thanx
Your are right.
I'm sure ATA pilot could give more insight, but ATA seemed like a very well run CHARTER and MILITARY CONTRACT flying company that made money. Once they got visions of grandeur and tried to become a part-121 scheduled carrier, the reality of having to sell tickets and not having your costs pre-covered by a contract started to set in. Add that to a run up in fuel costs and ATA ultimately was a collection of gates that Airtran and SWA both wanted. Ironically, if SWA had just been a bit more patient, they would have gotten the gates at MDW anyway with their merger/purchase of Airtran.Company Plans For 2002:
After some retirements (remaining 727's and a few L10's) and deliveries (five 757-300's and a bunch of 737-800's) we will have a "net" gain on the fleet list of 9 airplanes by the end of 2002.
The base structure is being realligned as such:
L1011 - JFK, LAX, IND
757 - MDW, IND, SFO, LAX (SFO and LAX are for the Hawaii service with the -300's)
737 - MDW, IND
We are currently keeping eight 727's flying through Spring because of Charter flying picked up from Sun Country's demise.
Contract talks have entered the mediation stage. Expect that issue to come to a head sometime this year.
They will have to hire for the net gain of 9 aircraft (approximately 100 or so).
You tell 'em, Ramz.".. ATA seemed like a very well run CHARTER and MILITARY CONTRACT flying company that made money."
That was a GOOD one.
At best,they were a very poorly managed outfit that had always barely hung on by the skin of their pecker...Until April 3rd, 2008 that is.
"All stupid things must come to an end."
Charter or Scheduled service had nothing to do with it...They never really made ANY money at all, just marginal amounts above break even here and there, somehow managing to stay afloat.
Aircraft were always FULL, the product was well positioned and priced right, and the aircraft and people were great. But if you are handed 1.2 BILLION in revenues and can only manage a 2-6 million dollar profit...Something is rotten in Denmark. ( In comparison: Airtran that same year produced approx. 475 million in revenue and turned about a 45 million dollar profit. )
Cavemen shouldn't operate spaceships, and Indiana pig farmers shouldn't run airlines.
ALPA lied to us even before USAir left. ALPA was run by US, UA, and DL. They didn't care about us then. So, no, ALPA hasn't "taken care" of us. No union has, once you're not paying dues. No airline has, either. Not, FedEx that pulled the charter plug, not SWA after they scavenged our carcass, no one, not even our so-called GAL/GAH "partners."
Got this ALPA negotiated bennie:
FWIW, my brother was on the 737 and never heard a peep from CAL. He did get his token interview at SWA along with the others.Got this ALPA negotiated bennie:
Pref interviews at CAL. Many of us (myself included) benefitted from those. Can't remember though, did one have to be on the 757 at ATA to get that perk?
No aircraft. No employees, directly. They wanted the MDW, LGA, and DCA slots/gates. We would have flown for them for a few months, then we would have downsized on our own cert. from 1150 to 300+ pilots, eventually, doing all charter work out of IND. We were to get preferential interviews with FL.Didn't the Airtran offer include buying ATA assets and planes, but not take the pilots?
And no, I'm not hating. It's just a question.