ASTAR takes the first steps

[Fightthefuture?]

rumor has it that their are 70+ 737-700s and 767-300s (unknown amount) that Astar has their hands on. Also Astar's POI has placed a 767 inspector on the staff.

You need to work on your sarcasm skills Someone may have thought you were serious, like I did, until I re-read your post and saw Astar was buying 700's. There is no cargo mod for the 737-700 (their too short, and too expensive). Unless Daz plans on converting them to BBJ's.

Now here's some sarcasm: Did you here Daz just got a line of credit from a German Bank? Yeah I heard he was going to buy 90 airplanes -767's, DC-8's and DC-9's. I wonder where he's going to get them?

 

[erwaz]

fightthefuture - You need a reality check.

From the Boeing web site.

The 737-700C (Convertible) is the first member of the Boeing Next-Generation 737 family to be offered in both an all-passenger and all-cargo layout. The 737-700C highlights the outstanding flexibility of the 737 family.
The 737-700C, a simple derivative of the Boeing Next-Generation 737-700 passenger airplane, has strengthened wings identical to those on the Boeing Business Jet (BBJ). The BBJ is a modified Next-Generation 737-700. The 737-700C also has a new main-deck cargo door and a new cargo handling system.
Like all Next-Generation 737 models, the 737-700C is powered by CFM56-7 engines produced by CFMI, a joint venture of General Electric of the United States and Snecma of France.
In an all-passenger layout, the Next-Generation 737-700C can carry up to 140 passengers. In a mixed-class configuration of 120 passengers, it can fly up to 3,205 nautical miles (5,940 kilometers). In an all-cargo layout, the 737-700C can carry up to 40,000 pounds (18,200 kilograms) of cargo and fly up to 2,880 nautical miles (5,330 kilometers).
The 737-700C was launched Sept. 3, 1997, when the U.S. Naval Reserve ordered two. The Naval Reserve calls the model the C-40 Clipper. The 737-700C is the first new all-cargo 737 Boeing has developed since 1966, when the 737-200 Convertible was launched.
The 737-700C allows airlines to alternate between passenger and cargo layouts on a daily, weekly or seasonal basis depending on market requirements.

40,000 lbs = 2 DC9s ! No reason to buy outdated junk with out cargo doors!!!

 

[shooter]

fightthefuture - You need a reality check.

From the Boeing web site.

The 737-700C (Convertible) is the first member of the Boeing Next-Generation 737 family to be offered in both an all-passenger and all-cargo layout. The 737-700C highlights the outstanding flexibility of the 737 family.
The 737-700C, a simple derivative of the Boeing Next-Generation 737-700 passenger airplane, has strengthened wings identical to those on the Boeing Business Jet (BBJ). The BBJ is a modified Next-Generation 737-700. The 737-700C also has a new main-deck cargo door and a new cargo handling system.
Like all Next-Generation 737 models, the 737-700C is powered by CFM56-7 engines produced by CFMI, a joint venture of General Electric of the United States and Snecma of France.
In an all-passenger layout, the Next-Generation 737-700C can carry up to 140 passengers. In a mixed-class configuration of 120 passengers, it can fly up to 3,205 nautical miles (5,940 kilometers). In an all-cargo layout, the 737-700C can carry up to 40,000 pounds (18,200 kilograms) of cargo and fly up to 2,880 nautical miles (5,330 kilometers).
The 737-700C was launched Sept. 3, 1997, when the U.S. Naval Reserve ordered two. The Naval Reserve calls the model the C-40 Clipper. The 737-700C is the first new all-cargo 737 Boeing has developed since 1966, when the 737-200 Convertible was launched.
The 737-700C allows airlines to alternate between passenger and cargo layouts on a daily, weekly or seasonal basis depending on market requirements.

40,000 lbs = 2 DC9s ! No reason to buy outdated junk with out cargo doors!!!

I think fightthefuture was just trying saying there is no cargo mod for the -700 (yet). It's a production cargo aircraft. The -700C program was launched a few years after the -700 for the Navy and the first one was not delivered until around 2000 (somewhere around that time). I don't know why he said it would not make a good cargo aircraft.

IMO, this was also launched by Boeing with UPS in mind by designing it as a mix class. It was around that time UPS was tinkering with being a passenger airline using convertibles. But that is just speculation on my part because the UPS pax airline was very short lived.

I don't doubt the rumor of the 737's may have some meat to it because KittyHawk has told the world they would consider a sale. The -700, more so the -700C, would be many many years down the road so that made the rumor hard to swallow as presented. I hope for ABX to purchase KittyHawk, but the odds of Astar buying them first are greater. Just out of the two carriers of course.

40,000 lbs = 2 DC9s ! No reason to buy outdated junk with out cargo doors!!!

no, last weeks press release proved the Das only buys outdated junk with cargo doors. :laugh: sorry, just had to have a smart@$$ reply to a smart@$$ statement.

 

[LarryinTN]

40,000 lbs = 2 DC9s

The DC9 carries between 33,000 and 37,000 pounds.

 

[erwaz]

Shooter,

You are right! The DAZ does buy out dated junk with doors! He also only seems to by aircraft he already has.

 

[hvydriver]

no, last weeks press release proved the Das only buys outdated junk with cargo doors. :laugh: sorry, just had to have a smart@$$ reply to a smart@$$ statement.

LOL good one, Shooter! You know, I can't wait to fly that DC8 that we bought! I'm sure it will feel different.