Assulting a crew member

[ultrarunner]

I think anyone who assults a crew member should be immediately placed on the NO-FLY list.

You'd be surprised at how quick folks start behaving when faced with never being allowed to board...EVER!

 

[Fliteidol]

Whats assulting??? insulting while assaulting?

 

[B190Captain]

assult? I think it's mooning another crew member.

:laugh:

 

[ultrarunner]

I never could spell ;-)

 

[milplt]

We've got too many laws as it is. If an assault becomes criminal, the criminal process will kick in. Take the situation with TSA - any crewmember who says the wrong thing (regardless of the tone) can be charged and ultimately fired. Being charged for telling a high school grad who works among a bunch of petty thieves (no they aren't all that way - but the ones in LA were and they had the same authority as the rest of them) that he is a joke borders on ridiculous - but it is reality. Heck, they tried to crimialize somone writing something along the lines of "Kip Hawley is an IDIOT" on his Qt-sized ziplock bag (he was detained by the TSA and local authorites for a while and was forced to give his identifying information and had his picture taken by the TSA supervisor). Now, you suggest that we start putting people on the no-fly list because someone may walk up to you and say "THAT LANDING SUCKED" in a little too forceful of a manner? What is assault to you may not be to someone else, and vice-versa.

You want something substantial - how about pushing for a law that will hold harmless all crewmembers and/or passengers when they respond to an incident that is deemed at the time by a reasonable person to be a valid threat. Let's worry about stopping the ridiculous (and probably coordinated on a larger scale) actions of those 6 IMAMs that are obviously meant to try to make crew and passengers feel powerless to preemptively deter any actions which they deem threatening.

 

[PurpleInMEM]

We've got too many laws as it is. If an assault becomes criminal, the criminal process will kick in. Take the situaltion with TSA - any crewmember who says the wrong thing (regardless of the tone) can be charged and ultimately fired. Being charged for telling a high school grad who works among a bunch of petty thieves (no they aren't all that way - but the ones in LA were and they had the same authority as the rest of them) that he is a joke borders on ridiculous - but it is reality. Heck, they tried to crimialize somone writing something along the lines of "Kip Hawley is an IDIOT" on his Qt-sized ziplock bag (he was detained by the TSA and local authorites for a while and was forced to give his identifying information and had his picture taken by the TSA supervisor). Now, you suggest that we start putting people on the no-fly list because someone may walk up to you and say "THAT LANDING SUCKED" in a little too forceful of a manner? What is assult to you may not be to someone else, and vice-versa.

You want something substantial - how about pushing for a law that will hold harmless all crewmembers and/or passengers when they respond to an incident that is deemed at the time by a reasonable person to be a valid threat. Let's worry about stopping the ridiculous (and probably coordinated on a larger scale) actions of those 6 IMAMs that are obviously meant to try to make crew and passengers feel powerless to preemptively deter any actions which they deem threatening.

Agreed. We have become a Nanny State. How about a law against passing new laws?

 

[ground stop]

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[Scrapdog]

I never could spell ;-)

It's amazing what 5 seconds with spell checker will do for how others perceive you huh?

 

[Philerup]

How about this, if someone assaults you beat the hell out of them. Easy, quick, efficient, and doesn't involve law enforcement.

 

[Lear70]

How about this, if someone assaults you beat the hell out of them. Easy, quick, efficient, and doesn't involve law enforcement.

Agreed.

If you are on duty, in your uniform, and someone PHYSICALLY assaults you (i.e. pushes, slaps, punches, kicks, bites, or grabs), turn and beat the tee-total sh*t out of them.

THEN call security, tell them you were assaulted and acted in defense until their assault stopped, and press personal charges against them.

Forget messing with some new security measure or law... The Constitution of the United States 100% protects you if you act to protect yourself as long as you don't use excessive or deadly force where it is not warranted.

Excessive force is awfully difficult to prove as long as you stop once they hit the floor. Been there, done that.

 

[ultrarunner]

Agreed.

If you are on duty, in your uniform, and someone PHYSICALLY assaults you (i.e. pushes, slaps, punches, kicks, bites, or grabs), turn and beat the tee-total sh*t out of them.

I'm all for that!

 

[Princedietrich]

Assaulting a crew member is when you are in the cockpit and let loose a three-burrito fart, and the other crewmember is sitting next to the cabin outflow valve.

 

[Flyer2000]

Assault= threat (i.e. I am going to kick your a$$)
Battery= physical (i.e. pushing, punching, kicking)
Assualt with intent to GBI = stabbing, using a weapon of any kind (including kicking a person when they are on the floor) for other than self defense, etc.

GBI - Great Bodily Injury incase you couldn't figure it out.

 

[AC560]

If you are on duty, in your uniform, and someone PHYSICALLY assaults you (i.e. pushes, slaps, punches, kicks, bites, or grabs), turn and beat the tee-total sh*t out of them.

THEN call security, tell them you were assaulted and acted in defense until their assault stopped, and press personal charges against them.

And hope you have witnesses or videotape which supports your story that the person assaulted you, then you beat the crap out of them.

 

[737 Pylt]

Agreed.

If you are on duty, in your uniform, and someone PHYSICALLY assaults you (i.e. pushes, slaps, punches, kicks, bites, or grabs), turn and beat the tee-total sh*t out of them.

Unless of course you're CFIT or HPilot....Then you just hike up your skirt, scream a little and skip away crying!:laugh:

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