ASA vs XJT?

[US Flyer]

"Continental is looking like the airline with a better future, but it is hard to have a crystal ball when it comes to aviation. From talking to my friends at COEX, they have a much better relationship with their management.

As for reserve, I have had my days off taken away from me and have been flying 6 on, 1 day off, for the past four weeks now. As much as I hate the idea of jets for jobs, it sure would be nice if one of those 200+ Delta pilots getting paid six figures to sit at home would come relieve me long enough so I did not have to buy clean undewear from Wal Mart on overnights....

Oh and in the Company magazine our Chief Pilot says we should raise expectations for flight crew members and he fondly remembers the days when we paid for the privlege fly. Asking the Company to pay us a living wage, or let us see our families more than 1 day a week, is too much to ask. You pick - you want to work for him? I'm not sure I do. I can't wait till we get to walk out of here."................


I couldn't have said it better myself. I dont know much about COEX, but would go where I know I could get a better contract sooner and not be treated like a two-year old. ASA grievances are at all time high, and the company is fighting them tooth and nail, even the one's they know they are wrong on. In my opinion I think this increases pilot solidarity in the event of a work slowdown/strike. But I am not paid the big bucks like all the management people who think they are wearing us down. They are just encouraging us to fight them more and increase turnover. I know several guys from my new hire class that are trying to find any corporate job just to leave the place it has become so negative recently.

 

[Britpilot]

Your friend obviously doesn't know much, he's missing out on XJet's management breaking tactics (he's leaving the logo light on.) If you want to see the real side of XJet, take any one of their 400 hour wonders (those hired in 2000-2001) and have him give you a brief synopsis from 'a real pilot's point of view'. Take about one negative management-hating-sour-grapes-we-taxi-our-37-seaters-(actually-we-taxi-all-of-them)-like-we're-in-a-767 pilot group, they take the grand prize. Go there only if you want to hate your job for life. Good luck, it's a good position to be in.

As for the wide body taxiing, do you guys really think you need the clearance? I watched a 37 seater taxi ALL the way to the end of the taxiway (20 feet past the center line) before turning, ala 767 style. The guy behind him stayed on the little yellow line (you know, the one that marks the CENTER of the taxiway), his inside wheel was offset by TWO WHOLE FEET. You have the clearance, you don't need to taxi ALL the way down, you can stay on the yellow line with plenty of room to avoid the grass.

You sir, are a dick. The yellow line indicates how to EXIT the runway.

 

[Smacktard]

You sir, are a dick. The yellow line indicates how to EXIT the runway.

You might want to do a little research. Yellow line is simply a taxiway centerline. Centered for a reason. I know it's been a while since you were learning this stuff so here's a little help for you...

Taxiway Centerline. The taxiway centerline is a single continuous yellow line, 6 inches (15 cm) to 12 inches (30 cm) in width. This provides a visual cue to permit taxiing along a designated path. Ideally the aircraft should be kept centered over this line during taxi to ensure wing-tip clearance.

 

[Britpilot]

You might want to do a little research. Yellow line is simply a taxiway centerline. Centered for a reason. I know it's been a while since you were learning this stuff so here's a little help for you...

Taxiway Centerline. The taxiway centerline is a single continuous yellow line, 6 inches (15 cm) to 12 inches (30 cm) in width. This provides a visual cue to permit taxiing along a designated path. Ideally the aircraft should be kept centered over this line during taxi to ensure wing-tip clearance.

Thank you for the lesson but we are not talking about a taxiway line here. You may have not had a FAA inspector on the jump seat who will bust you if you stay on the yellow line when you taxi onto the runway. Reason? Not using all available runway for take off. Their interpretation of the yellow line at the end of the runway (remember we are talking about the line ON THE RUNWAY not the taxiway as in your quote) is for giudance when exiting the runway after landing. As I said, their interpretation, not mine.

 

[Smacktard]

Thank you for the lesson but we are not talking about a taxiway line here.

I guess you guys use all available taxiways too, ehh?

Ok, sorry I started this, it was an offhand remark poking fun at how XJet'ers taxi.

But since I can't let a good thing go, let me get one more word in.

Technically the orginal complaint was "The guy behind him stayed on the little yellow line (you know, the one that marks the CENTER of the taxiway)".

I was talking about the taxiway line. (He was taxiing from Lima to November, short of 6R, CLE.)

I guess I should have spelled that out in the original post. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Britpilot]

I was talking about the taxiway line. (He was taxiing from Lima to November, short of 6R, CLE.)

I guess I should have spelled that out in the original post. Sorry for the confusion.

Ok, I do this too so as not to blast you all with the engines when I apply power to cross 6R to get to 6L. If you would like in future I will drop this procedure and shower you with all the fod that will be sent your way. Just trying to show some consideration to those behind me.

 

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Mooser

 

[reddie2fly]

I'm at Coex. For the most part, I like the people here. Relationship with management is probably like that of any other airline (us vs. them) concept. Can't call it on reserve times. I know that we are in the process of hiring around 400 this year. Where you are in that mix of 400 will probably determine your length of reserve. Sorry to say we have already hired about 270 of that 400, so you will probably be on the back side. Any rate, try to keep positive and your eyes on the big picture here.

Best of luck