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777forever

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Is a complete embarrassment to the company. For Dec we missed our A, B, and C performance levels. That is Mesa like performance. Are we not maintaining these planes well enough that they keep breaking the way the are? Our 'performance sucks because of ATL' argument has gone out the window. Hopefully its just a case of one bad month.
 
The ALPA board is internal to ASA pilots, and its where it should be posted, not anonymous for the public to see.
 
Yeah, keep the skeletons in our own closet. Nothing to see here. Oh look....a shiny CRJ!
 
Is a complete embarrassment to the company. For Dec we missed our A, B, and C performance levels. That is Mesa like performance. Are we not maintaining these planes well enough that they keep breaking the way the are? Our 'performance sucks because of ATL' argument has gone out the window. Hopefully its just a case of one bad month.

Why don't you ask your messiah (BH) to hire more pilots and fix the airplanes.
 
OMG guys, you should be ashamed of yourselves! I hope Brad addresses this in his update which I'll be sitting by the fire waiting for eagerly this week. He'll have some spin, "I'm so proud that we've faced such an operationally difficult situation this week, but we need to do better."

IN OTHER NEWS! ASA/XJT should be watching what comes out of this Peanuckle/Colgan/Mesaba TA. I find it hard to believe that it will be "industry leading," but in the case it is, we accept nothing less. In fact matching them will be a slap in the face.
 
OMG guys, you should be ashamed of yourselves! I hope Brad addresses this in his update which I'll be sitting by the fire waiting for eagerly this week. He'll have some spin, "I'm so proud that we've faced such an operationally difficult situation this week, but we need to do better."

IN OTHER NEWS! ASA/XJT should be watching what comes out of this Peanuckle/Colgan/Mesaba TA. I find it hard to believe that it will be "industry leading," but in the case it is, we accept nothing less. In fact matching them will be a slap in the face.

Based on what came out the last time (that got voted down) I too doubt it will be "industry leading".
 
Don't worry, the xjt numbers for coex this month will probably be the worst ever. The virtual loss of CAL pass travel for the coex folks is causing a MAJOR uptick in assuring a VERY safe operation.
 
Is a complete embarrassment to the company. For Dec we missed our A, B, and C performance levels. That is Mesa like performance. Are we not maintaining these planes well enough that they keep breaking the way the are? Our 'performance sucks because of ATL' argument has gone out the window. Hopefully its just a case of one bad month.

Yep- Mx is one area that has been cut back way too much. They seem to have adopted a philosophy that they should "fly it to the max extent of the MEL." Well-that is all well and good until the backup cooling fan fails, or the extra this, that, or other doo-dad which is required to be working poops the shed.

-Then a whole line of flying for that aircraft for that day (at least) and the aircraft is done. Sometimes it is really cheaper and easier to staff departments properly. These "MEL the crap out of it" games are really a great example of the crazy "penny wise-pound foolish" mentality which has taken over. Mx has really been run ragged of late as well. If you "skeleton crew" this whole airline, bad stuff starts to happen.
 
Don't worry, the xjt numbers for coex this month will probably be the worst ever. The virtual loss of CAL pass travel for the coex folks is causing a MAJOR uptick in assuring a VERY safe operation.


How did your pass travel change? We were told it was being "realigned" with current benefits at other carriers.

We at ASA had our benefits "ENHANCED" a while back and it was a major concession. The company spin was "well, Delta wanted to eliminate your pass travel, so GOOD NEWS...you still have them!!"
 
How did your pass travel change? We were told it was being "realigned" with current benefits at other carriers.

We at ASA had our benefits "ENHANCED" a while back and it was a major concession. The company spin was "well, Delta wanted to eliminate your pass travel, so GOOD NEWS...you still have them!!"

If I'm not mistaken, you're on our message board, if not, sorry. But it's being beat to death over there.

Short answer, the way it USED to be. XJT employees traveled on mainline CAL on an SA3 priority with date of hire. It's a hold over from the "wholly owned" days. So an XJT employee with a DOH of say 2005 can bump a mainline employee off a CAL flight. Very unconventional, but that's the way it was. It was a benefit for the XJT employees since the IPO spinoff. Same on an XJT flight, both CAL and XJT employees are SA3 with date hire. Meaning that a CAL employee can bump an XJT employee off an XJT plane if they're DOH is before the XJT employees. BOTH times I've flown Delcon, and BOTH times I've flown UAX, this was not the case. The employee of that company had priority on their own metal.

Now, the way it's going to be effective Jan 5. On a CAL flight, CAL employees get SA3 board priority, XJT gets SA5 priority. Here's the best part, on XJT flight, CAL employees get to board before ALL XJT employees. Is that f'd up or what? Who else does it so that the mainline employees get on before employees of the "regional"?

There's a whole slew of other things associated with it as well, taking away our vacation passes, etc. But the above is the main sticking point.
 
Not to mention the whole FCFS JS thing. But to add to Dojet, no more enhanced buddy pass riders or buddy passes all together. And now we go behind all retirees and their buddy passer riders as well.
 
At ASA, we've been going behind the Delta retirees' for several years now. Really sux commuting out of DFW when all the Delta retirees' are headed out for for their cruises and I'm just trying to get to work!
 
At ASA, we've been going behind the Delta retirees' for several years now. Really sux commuting out of DFW when all the Delta retirees' are headed out for for their cruises and I'm just trying to get to work!

This will upset you off even more if you weren't aware of it, but those "retirees" really aren't usually retired DL employees. DL Parents are listed as "retirees." So when you get bumped off a flight because you were behind a "Retiree/Other," you are actually likely getting bumped off due to a ramper's dad or a gate agents mom.

As a side note, the inverse is not true. On ASA metal, ASA parents sit behind DL employees. That needs to change until DL changes their policy.
 
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I hope ATL performance goes in the tubes too.

I don't think they'll see that we don't have what we need to get the job done until it does.

Thanks for all you do, biatch!
 
So when does Uncle Jerry give this flying to SkyWest to operate? Dont even know if thats possible, just throwing out flamebait.
 
Don't you guys have language in your contract to prevent the transfer of flying? Or can Jerry use ASA as the whipping boy?
 

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