ASA Training and Life

[fsworld]

Hello All,

I start training at ASA on Monday. Im just trying to figure some things out for planning purposes. Getting a bit nervous....

I know class is 9-5 mon-fri for the most part but any additional information on that? I know the entire training isnt 9-5. Also, what about weekends? Do most people stay and study in groups, go home, or what? What about these so called vacations while in training? Did they cut those? I know that once you get out of trainnig you get reserve for a month or so but whats a crappy line after that? Any examples?


Anything else would be helpful too!

Thanks,
Zach

 

[puddlejumper101]

the built in vacations do happen from time to time, depending on the training dept, and their availability to move people through. I have noticed this "vacation" gap for guys waiting for IOE after they have finished their training. Reserve can be longer than a month, it depends on the number of lines, all I can say is a line no matter how crappy it is, will never be as bad as reserve

 

[Biatch5]

Hello All,

I start training at ASA on Monday. Im just trying to figure some things out for planning purposes. Getting a bit nervous....

I know class is 9-5 mon-fri for the most part but any additional information on that? I know the entire training isnt 9-5. Also, what about weekends? Do most people stay and study in groups, go home, or what? What about these so called vacations while in training? Did they cut those? I know that once you get out of trainnig you get reserve for a month or so but whats a crappy line after that? Any examples?


Anything else would be helpful too!

Thanks,
Zach

You have to know everything during training. Even the tire pressure on the landing gear. You better get cramming. Good Luck you'll definetly need it. Training is hell from what I've heard. You will have no life while in training.. morning, noon, evening, sleep STUDY STUDY STUDY

 

[puddlejumper101]

training is not easy, but if you can breathe they will get you through as long as you don't give the training dept. attitude.
cooperate, graduate, thats the best advice I can give on training

 

[Biatch5]

They even make you watch this video during training, anyone that gets up and leaves is kicked out

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[Crash Pad]

I think I speak for my entire ground school when I say training is a nightmare. Between the late night cocktail hours followed by 8 AM classes it's a wonder we made it. Indoc brutal... CRM even worse... systems... Don't get me started. If you think you'll be taking weekends off and vacations... You got another thing coming.

Just a note: we started with 24 only 9 made it to the line.

 

[puddlejumper101]

the "unofficial" ASA training guide is located in Spondivits accross the street, i think Ruby Tuesdays has an unofficial copy also. It is only available between 10pm and midnight. It is the only way to get through training. Ask the bartender for the ASA special, they all know about it.

 

[fsworld]

What did people use for flight bags during training?

 

[puddlejumper101]

depends on how much $$$ you have available. Some guys used the old ones they had from their GA days and others went to the flight station and dished out a few hundred bucks for a flight bag. A few other guys went to office depot and bought flight bags there, at more down to earth prices. Either way, have something, cause you will get loaded with manuals

 

[bigshooter]

Training is not that bad. Just study , dont get FUBAR every night. Do not show up at the paper tiger (cpt) without knowining the flows cold. U Do not have to memorize all those emergency action items anymore. But if you bust your ride they probably will tell you to come back in six months. We are doining good enough to waste $20,000 plus on your training and just get a new guy or gal to fill ur spot, , logical eh. Be nice to flight instructors most of them are super guys and gals and if you screw up take full responsibility, even if you are unlucky enough to draw the midnight to 4:00a.m sim sessions. Might want to spend 30 bucks on a office depot bag for training just in case.
Good luck , its not that bad of a place to work once u get here.
Congrats on making the initial cut. See ya on line.

 

[Long Time Gone]

Tell all of these idiots to STFU. Especially the Biatch.

It's not bad at all. The instructors have a job to do, and they'll do it. Period.

The training is usually 8 to 50 M thru F for ground schools, i.e., INDOC, Systems, Performance, etc. That could change, depending on what needs to be accomplished and how many are going thru, etc.

CPT (cockpit procedure training....flows, checklists, etc.) is usually 4 sessions, with the last 2 partially in the sim so you can push the real buttons.

Sim sessions are variable, with a 3 hour pre-brief, a 4 hour session, and a 1 hour post-brief. Usually 8 sims, with a mock checkride after followed by the real thing. Don't sweat it.

The wait for IOE (25 gear cycles in the RJ, regardless of hours) varies. There are stories floating out there of one person waiting 28 days for the first IOE trip. They're regular trips, anywhere from 1 day to 4 days, mostly up to 2 days because the IPs don't want to be away from home.

The flight bag is your option. The $30 Office Depot special works great.

Reserve is reserve. Sometimes you work everyday, sometimes you don't work for 3 weeks plus. It varies, take it in stride. Some people bid reserve on purpose because you can still make over guarantee the way our contract is (under block is on top of guarantee, regardless if you hit guarantee or not).

Enjoy your time, and disregard the idiots around here. Some people should be banned just for all of the negative BS.

LTG

 

[FL000]

The flight bag is your option. The $30 Office Depot special works great.

Mine's going on 6 years.
ASA training is top notch. No worries.
Please don't patronize Spondivits unless you like serious attitude from waitstaff and management. I was followed to the parking lot and berated once for leaving a 20% tip. I upped it to 30% (wish I hadn't) and the redneck whore still wasn't happy. That was not an isolated incident....just the last incident.

 

[Jungle Prop]

Wow, you guys need to relax. The training isnt easy but it's not that difficult. Memorize your memory items, limitations and profiles. That's 80% of your oral.Then get flows down cold. The one thing that ticks off instructors is not being prepared for a lesson because theres to much to do in the sim sessions to teach stuff you should already know. By the time you get to the oral you will have a good working knowledge of the systems. Our instructors are top notch and will do everything possible to get you through. Like already said, attitude is everything, keep it positive. Your checkride will not be perfect and they dont expect perfect. Its basically a pro-check, so you can retrain a few items if necassary and time permits. Just relax and get out of town on weekends, you will go crazy if you stay at the Red Roof for 2 months! Also work with your partner is makes a tremendous differance. Good Luck and BREATHE.

 

[Biatch5]

Tell all of these idiots to STFU. Especially the Biatch.
Some people should be banned just for all of the negative BS.
LTG

hahahahahaha Someone get him some vagisil

 

[Long Time Gone]

BTW, I went home (flew quite a distance) every weekend in ground school. Everything is possible.

Great attitude is all you really need. You're already hired. Welcome aboard.

LTG

 

[~~~^~~~]

U Do not have to memorize all those emergency action items anymore.

Actually, you do have to memorize those. The written test is the same after systems ground school.

Besides, I can never find the checklist I'm looking for on the card, so I run the list from memory and then check the card to satisfy the requirement. Does anyone think that if you got into the mess those Pinnacle pilots were in that you would read the card? Heck no. When your bacon is in the fire it is a good idea to have some idea how to begin a correct recovery.

 

[anon]

1. Be sure you know the Immediate Action Items. These are the BOXED items on the card. The non-boxed information is not required for your oral.

2. Know all of the BOXED limitations in your POH. You are required to know them 100%.

3. General systems. You are required to have a good working knowledge (80% per the feds) of all systems.

4. Know your flows before you get to CPT.

5. Know your profiles before you get to the sim.

recommendations:

Study with your training partner.

Use study groups when possible.

Do not go out and get trashed at night. If you're not studying, you will need to conserve your rest and reserve some time for your family.

Do dress appropriately. Business casual will be fine.




Be advised, the ASA IP's and Check Airmen are going to train and check you to the FAA standards. Do not think they are going to pencil whip you through the program. The 600 hr pilot will be held to the exact same standards as the 6000 hr pilot.

Play the game, study hard, budget your free time, and you will make it through the program.

 

[jobear]

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[ALCOHOLIC]

Training is easy. Look who gets through.