ASA to Commit Schedule Suicide for June

[Stifler's Mom]

So back to the issue, why isn't anyone (upper mgmt) addressing this and telling us why we are about to have the worst performance ever during the summer in atl....... Cannot believe this

That's what I've been wondering. I am skeptical of how this is going to work. I can understand the pre-boarding while the pilots are enroute, but how will that work on D-concourse? Who will be incharge of running the APU with no crew onboard? Old ATR powercarts? Good luck.

I hope I am wrong about this, but after what we just did with the MX problems on April 1st, I would've thought that trying something this wild would have been shelved for awhile.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

That's what I've been wondering. I am skeptical of how this is going to work. I can understand the pre-boarding while the pilots are enroute, but how will that work on D-concourse? Who will be incharge of running the APU with no crew onboard? Old ATR powercarts? Good luck.

In order to board w/o pilots on-board you must have grd power avail. The APU cannot be used w/o the flightdeck crew within the footprint of the aircraft. With that said you will only see this done on A,B,C and the old NW/city gates on D. I believe that the flt deck crew must be on the grd to initiate boarding as well. You don't want people boarding while the pilots are over ODF on the arrival.

 

[LazyLightnin']

As for the room on D-conc for WC and UMs, this is only a transfer room and not a "holding pin". They are only there long enough to confirm a gate and have someone take them out. If a child has a lengthy L/O then they are taken to Dusty's Den. This job has nothing to do with AA as I have been there and done that years ago. It is a low paying thank-less job that many people simply don't want yet these people do and they have gotten better.

I'd beg to differ that the job has nothing to do with AA. Most of them do. You know who the airport is named after right?

 

[atlcrjdriver]

I'd beg to differ that the job has something to do with AA. They all do. You know who the airport is named after, right?

They all do? I'd beg to differ.

To answer your question, yes.
William B Hartsfield and Maynard Jackson both of whom are former Atlanta mayors that had a great impact on this city.

Hartsfield is credited along with Mayor Maynard Jackson with developing Atlanta's airport into a national aviation center and ensuring a good water supply with the completion of the Buford Dam. Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport is named in honor of him and later Mayor Maynard Jackson, who led the modernization of the airport in the 1970s.
Hartsfield was also responsible for fostering Atlanta's image as "the city too busy to hate" during the Civil Rights struggles of the 1950s.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Thanks for the Wiki, although you're wrong.


You may find this article interesting.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=900005558485

Contracts and Procurement

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Thanks for the Wiki, although you're wrong.


You may find this article interesting.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=900005558485

Contracts and Procurement

What am I wrong about? Was the name changed from Hartsfield-Jackson Intl Airport?

Is Mercury Air Center still in business at KATL? The contract I thought we were talking about was AirServe. I am not wrong about the AA issue, it is simply a difference of opinion. If you want to explore every contract the Atlanta Airport has, then so be it but I hope you have allot of time on your hands.

Does the airport promote diversity? Yes
Is that a bad thing? IMHO ... No.

 

[goahead]

Why don't you guy's start your own thread about UM's and WC's.

Next month is going to suck and as mentioned above I cannot believe they are going to try something this crazy after the inspection ordeal............

 

[Papa Woody]

Does the airport promote diversity? Yes
Is that a bad thing? IMHO ... No.

"Diversity" is code for "blatant discrimination against white, Christian males." Period.

Is that a bad thing? ??

Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the strength to beat the living crap out of anyone who pisses me off!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Bad if you wanna be workin' at MacDonnells.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

"Diversity" is code for "blatant discrimination against white, Christian males." Period.

Is that a bad thing? ??

Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the strength to beat the living crap out of anyone who pisses me off!

By your logic if I am a white mormon or jewish male where do I fit in?

Diversity - the inclusion of diverse people (as people of different races or cultures) in a group or organization.


Back to the topic at hand:

The only way this will work is if the crews and the company work together. During IROP days performance will be in the toilet, as it is now, with the focus being on recovery. Short turns in ATL can be done w/ crew swaps just as they are done in outstations.

 

[SiuDude]

By your logic if I am a white mormon or jewish male where do I fit in?

Mormon = Christian... Jewish = Christian (jews for jesus anyone?). What else ya got?

Back to my regularly scheduled beverage.

 

[Plainsman]

As I stated earlier, the situation is not perfect and the system doesn't always work as intended. If that was the case then a flight would never be cxl'd and we would have 100% D-0 and A-0.

This room is not intended to be a holding pin. Are wait times there, at times, lengthy? Sure. Have you had to wait for a gate in ATL when you are on-time on a clear blue day? Sure. These are the exception and not the norm. I am a CR2 driver and go through this room several times a day and normally it is not full of pax sitting around. DL is not going to spend allot of money on this area due to the areas intent, a pass through pt only.

I see your point about not intending to be a holding pin, but people still dont deserve to sit down there. You are used to going through there and seeing that place and probably understand what the people are saying to a degree. You aren't some little kid being flown across the country for the first time in their life. Another thing those wheelchairs shouldn't even be taken across the ramp. There is alot that can be improved upon. You act like that is the best they can do. Someone has to stay on the companies and airports about this, otherwise the exception will become the norm. It aint my job to put passengers in straight backs in wheel chairs. You want quicker turns that stuff has to get better. I doesn't get better thinking that is the best they can do.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

I see your point about not intending to be a holding pin, but people still dont deserve to sit down there. You are used to going through there and seeing that place and probably understand what the people are saying to a degree. You aren't some little kid being flown across the country for the first time in their life. Another thing those wheelchairs shouldn't even be taken across the ramp. There is alot that can be improved upon. You act like that is the best they can do. Someone has to stay on the companies and airports about this, otherwise the exception will become the norm. It aint my job to put passengers in straight backs in wheel chairs. You want quicker turns that stuff has to get better. I doesn't get better thinking that is the best they can do.

I see your pt that nobody should ever have to be down there for any period of time. It should be that the agent confirms that gate and off they go. I also agree that WCs shouldn't be shuffled across the ramp as it can be a loud and dangerous place. The only problem is that they have to go to the elevator. The only bright spot is that I hear DL will pony up the funds for jetways on D next year. If this holds true then this entire assessment will become a moot.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Mormon = Christian... Jewish = Christian (jews for jesus anyone?). What else ya got?

Back to my regularly scheduled beverage.

The mormon and jewish faiths have many theological variances from the Christian faith. Many that fear diversity also fear any variances from what they see as the norm.

Fear leads to anger, aggression and war.
ie: see post #48

 

[Dubya]

Does ASA not have an employee board for you guys to discuss ASA business on? Why do you think anyone on FI has one tiny bit of interest in your company infighting and PBS?


W

 

[Freebrd]

Does ASA not have an employee board for you guys to discuss ASA business on? Why do you think anyone on FI has one tiny bit of interest in your company infighting and PBS?
W

So why ya reading any thread that has ASA in in then? Dummy. Just don't read it. Dummy. Oh, Mesa sucks. Dummy.

 

[crj567]

Does ASA not have an employee board for you guys to discuss ASA business on? Why do you think anyone on FI has one tiny bit of interest in your company infighting and PBS?


W

Just to Cheeze YOU off!!!!

-Just YOU!
-Score!

 

[777forever]

Does ASA not have an employee board for you guys to discuss ASA business on? Why do you think anyone on FI has one tiny bit of interest in your company infighting and PBS?


W

I believe its because the ASA boards require you to have your full name disclosed. That would cut back on the "you're a moron" "you're an idiot" flame posts that many on here enjoy. Wouldnt work out too well when you meet that person in the lounge or gasp...in the flight deck!

 

[LazyLightnin']

I believe its because the ASA boards require you to have your full name disclosed. That would cut back on the "you're a moron" "you're an idiot" flame posts that many on here enjoy. Wouldnt work out too well when you meet that person in the lounge or gasp...in the flight deck!

You're a moron.

What?

Just kidding. But he's gotta point. If someone farts in the crew lounge, 5 minutes later there's a new thread about it on FI.

 

[crj567]

I believe its because the ASA boards require you to have your full name disclosed. That would cut back on the "you're a moron" "you're an idiot" flame posts that many on here enjoy. Wouldnt work out too well when you meet that person in the lounge or gasp...in the flight deck!

The fact that names are disclosed on the ALPA boards doesn't seem to have slowed WF down one bit..... I have been wondering where he might draw the line, but apparently there is just no limit to his idiocy!