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[General Lee]

79%N1,

Yes, I know a bit about ASA---and I have talked with many of them and jumped on their airplanes quite a bit. It seems that if you want to live at one of their hubs, you can be happy. The pay is not bad compared to others--like Mesa and Chataqua----and the planes are nice. There aren't as many "cold" overnights---so flying in the Winter isn't as bad as flying for Comair. The other big hang up is the contract, and I don't see that getting better any time soon. If you want to fly a nice airplane and live and be based in either DFW or ATL, and don't mind the lower pay for a couple years---then I think ASA would be the right regional airline for some people. And, in a few years we will probably be hiring many ASA pilots when our furloughs come back eventually--so there could be some movement there..... You have to be informed, though. Enjoy your day 79%N1.

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[79%N1]

Aaahhhh....The General has spoke, and imparted his neverending wisdom! My day can go on!

 

[climbhappy]

dude,

if you have a wife or girlfriend, read your post to her, then make love, and if you still feel that way, then it really is bad!

 

[Dude]

Fellas,

It's nice to see the varying responses to my post. All were fairly valid with the exception of the RJ drivers. The RJ guys may be correct with regard to life on the jet, but the ATR is completely different. I have spoken with many guys on the RJ that believe that's the only way to fly and the QOL ain't that bad. I am strictly speaking on behalf of what I know-The ATR.

Sure, my post was harsh and for the most part not every day is as bad as I made it seem. There is, however, a lot of truth behind my post. I still stand behind my comments and if the RJ is that good, I'll have to take your word for it. I have been awarded the RJ for some time now and still no class. The choice isn't mine what equip I fly, for now. The majority of the post was regarding the ATR.

For those of you that come from other carriers and are happy with your choice, good. I don't insist that anyone subscribe to my way of thinking. I have no issues with flying "Prop-Trash" as it were called previously; an airplane is an airplane to me. After a less than stellar day I thought I would share my thoughts on the current state of affairs at ASA. For those wishing to get a class, Good Luck. Be aware that we are in the middle of negotiations and things will be this way for a while. Sure, after the contract is settled, things will get better. In the meantime, hold on.

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

Hey buddy. Your list of aircraft flown seems a little far fetched.

Did you really fly a twotter?


I hope all the ASA pilots are as pissed as you seem to be. That is what it takes to strike if it becomes your only option. Good luck. We at Comair are ready to help in any way we can. Our pilot group had the same opinion of our jobs before we struck the compamy. And it is the reason we stayed out as long as we did.

 

[sleepy]

In the last ten years I have flow Part 135, Corporate, Part 121 Non-sked, and at ASA. I can honestly say that ASA is the best managed place I have ever worked for in aviation. That doesn't say much about aviation does it?

For all of it's problems, ASA is really not that bad of a place to work. Where else have you worked?

 

[General Lee]

79%N1,

I also have a 1-900 number that you can access any time of the day---at just $7 a min (I have to make up for any possible pay cuts...). My wife occasionally mans the phones--so don't be upset if she whispers to you......Good night now ya hear? (the number is 1-900-eat-dutch)

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[79%N1]

I already have the private # to your wife.....and I don't have to pay by the minute!

 

[Dude]

Okay, I might have fudged a little about the SR-71 and the Saturn V, but the rest is right on.

Previously flew Corporate, 135, Jumpers, Forest Svc, DOD Contract, yadda, yadda, yadda.....

It doesn't matter what I did previously. The fact is, I work for ASA now. It's great so many folks are truly happy with the company, but I am far from pleased. Everyone's got a story to tell and I told you mine. Usually I keep my thoughts to myself but considering some of the posts on this board, I thought what the hell.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Dude :

I'm glad you posted, just to insert a little reality into the crowd that thinks spending 330 hours on the road every month for $19,000 a year is Nirvana.

My experience with ASA seems to be in direct relation to the time I spend on the phone talking to someone in the GO. A broke airplane, crew re route, reserve, extension, a grievance, all things that make my day and their day worse than it would have been if we did not have to talk to eachother.

Unlike pilots, folks in the GO have an alleged "merit" system of promotion. Unfortunately many have figured out that crafty and blame shifting works about as well as hard working and friendly - so they do what they can to get on top. If you have ever seen drowning rats flighting over a piece of driftwood, you get the idea.

As lousy as they are to us, they are worse to each other.

The good thing about flying is that when we shut the cockpit door and the chocks are pulled, we are pretty much left alone to enjoy flying neat equipment with a pleasant, sharp, and skilled, pilot with whom we have a lot in common. The bars in Monterrey and Toronto are great and on the ATR there are some pretty fun places in Ft. Walton. After all, what job pays you $1.50 an hour to sip a margarita while circling the lazy river while watching all the Spring Break chiquita's....

Now if we could just get our ATL domicile back....

~~~^~~~

 

[amcnd]

Everone has there ups and downs at there job, but you just have to ride the wave. I for one have been at Eagle as a FO for 4.5 years. Could of upgraded at 9-11 then all stopped. The past 2 years sucked but know we are hiring like crazy (50 a month) and the upgrade is back down to 4.5 years and falling. So all of us Eagle pilots that were complaining the last 2 years are now happy because we are upgrading and not spending time on reserve. My advice is just chill and wait your turn and just live a stess free life. all it does is make you go crazy, and age twice as fast.

 

[General Lee]

79%N1,

Oh yeah, I asked her and she admitted that she was talking to you on the side.....She said you described yourself as a 250lb balding Morrocan who has three nipples---one on your back which is good for slow dancing.... What does that mean? You crazy man! You crazy!

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Palerider957]

General---I think you have %79N1 confused with me

 

[General Lee]

957,

Yummy---hopefully you will call me directly next time!

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[BIGBROWNDC8]

Dude,
I spent 4 years at ASA, Best job I ever had... Even better than the one I currently have. Its all about how you look at it. If you think life is suppose to be like a DAL Capt with 25 years of senority, yeah, ASA sucks. But if your a level minded person who understands that Life at a regional could be a whole lot worst that it is if you compare your contract to pratically anyone elses contract in the industry (rejional that is) youd be thankful for your job and quit your bitchen... If you think life is bad at ASA on reserve, try getting yourself a job at a major like UPS and then your know what life on a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ty reserve schedule is like... Just my 2 cents... Say hello to Drew for me...