ASA Strike center update

[boknowsASA]

NMB board met with both sides seperatly this morning and by this afternoon negotiations had resumed here in the ATL area. Some good progress is being made. They are planning to work late into the night and continue negotations thru Fri.

Thats all for now.

 

[jegermeister]

Is this a real meeting? Or a meeting to decide on when to have the next meeting?

 

[Airboss]

Its a caucass to decide when to have a meeting, which decides when the meeting is. Clear as mud?

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Looks like the company won this round again and got more play time through Friday at least. Hopefully they will continue to, as the SPC says, make progress.

 

[flyinhigh6165]

What good is a strike center.....our hands are tied. Time to do this Tony Soprano style.

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

Don't give an inch guys.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

No matter what the pay rates and work rules are the contract is worth noting unless there is a good merger and fragmentation section. IE iron clad. If it is not there, they will transfer the assets so fact it will make your head swim.

 

[601Pilot]

NMB board met with both sides seperatly this morning and by this afternoon negotiations had resumed here in the ATL area. Some good progress is being made. They are planning to work late into the night and continue negotations thru Fri.

Thats all for now.

Well, that's dissappointing. Hopefully our management can find Atlanta.

 

[Airboss]

It is 9:30p ET and we are still at the table. There is some dialogue on Scope and Duty Rigs. We will update you when we have more information to report. Remember, the only official and factual source of ALPA Pilots negotiations is from an MEC source like this Connection email, the ASA ALPA Crewroom website, or the ASA Pilots Negotiating Facts website. Other sources like the web boards and company updates are NOT official ALPA MEC Negotiating facts.[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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[jstyle13]

I didn't think this was a neg. session. I thought it was just some powow infront of the members of the NMB. I guess they are trying to get some stuff done?

A man can dream.....

 

[79%N1]

...........yawn. See ya in November!

 

[goahead]

of 08 nonetheless

 

[COOPERVANE]

Management will show just enough movement to keep the NMB off their backs.....again. We should have walked out again.

Watch

 

[Airboss]

It is 1100p ET and we are done for the night. There was some agreement in language in Section 1 scope. We were able to match a few concepts. However the larger issues remain open.
We finished the evening with a general agreement in concept on Duty Rigs. We will write language in the morning to see if we can match our verbal concepts.
We will update you further tomorrow when we have more information to report.
Remember, the only official and factual source of ALPA Pilots negotiations is from an MEC source like this Connection email, the ASA ALPA Crewroom website, or the ASA Pilots Negotiating Facts website. Other sources like the web boards and company updates are NOT official ALPA MEC Negotiating facts.[FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]

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[ASADriver]

I didn't think this was a neg. session. I thought it was just some powow infront of the members of the NMB. I guess they are trying to get some stuff done?

A man can dream.....

The company said it was going to be negotaitions, but the union said it was just a meeting with the NMB. I guess the evil company was right. How dare they tell the truth.

 

[79%N1]

Yea, I was wondering the same thing. Not to smear the guys working and fighting for us out there....but, why did they take the time to put out information specifically refuting what management said, and labeling it something completely different. One of three things must be true...
1. The Union did not know or was unsure or the meaning of the meeting on Wed.
2. The Union intentionally lied about the meaning.
3. The intention of the meeting changed sometime after they put out that email.

Seeing as management put out their information first and ALPA put out a memo to refute that makes me wonder jut what the heck is going on.....

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I would venture to guess that the NMB had something to do with that.

If you really have an issue with what Dave, Nick and the team are doing, get involved. There is not some evil conspiracy over on Norman Berry Drive. They are doing their best with what resources they have.

 

[Texx]

The company said it was going to be negotaitions, but the union said it was just a meeting with the NMB. I guess the evil company was right. How dare they tell the truth.

The conversation between the NMB and both parties was that the NMB would like to meet with them in ATL on Wed. the 26th. Nothing was said about neg.

How dare you spin the facts....

 

[79%N1]

Come on...I don't buy that. So it was a surprise negotiation session that the NMB sprung on us after telling us it was simply a meeting with the NMB! No way. It takes both sides time to prepare for a session and to get the proper people and pieces in place.
The fact is, the company announced it was negotiations,and the union specifically refuted that by saying this was not negotiations, but was simply a meeting with the NMB. That leads me to think that they were then unprepared to hold negotiations.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Management will show just enough movement to keep the NMB off their backs.....

This is the key to it all here. The company is not negotiating with anyone but the mediators. They will only move enough to ensure 3 more months of "negotiations". They show up prepared for what they want to talk about, and how far they want to go. All of it is eyewash. When the company wants this done, it will get done. Not a minute earlier

Dick Gozinya