ASA Staffed Adequately??

[Tarzan]

Our contract looks good on the outside. But with all the loopholes, the only reason we havent been abused more is really due to management wanting to foster relations with the pilot group. It has nothing to do with the contract. The only thing the contract can do effectively is help wreckless senior do***e bags keep their jobs. No matter how many sims it takes to get a V1 cut within loose standards.

The contract is only as good as the company that is willing to honor it. We have a good example of both in this case. But we'll see how you think when that contract is all that stands between you and either lost or the street.

 

[PositionandHold]

I didn't get my point across properly, and Data, you seem to have misinterpreted it. I don't think we are understaffed. Where did I say we were? I think we should raise line values. My frustrations have to do simply with the fact that it is impossible to break guarantee because of contract language, and so we have no real motivation to work our butts off on reserve. Lately I have worked every day of reserve for 75 hours of pay. I can "credit" 90 hours, but wont see any of that money unless I block over 75 hours of pay. And with 15 hour 4 days, it seals the deal. Our contract was written with the well-being of senior guys in mind. Can anyone tell me why reserves who credit 90 hours should not make 90 hours of pay?

My comment about senior d0ouche bags had nothing to do with being jealous of their seniority. I could never be jealous of someone who spent the past 20 years flying to Buttfu king Egypt and back 4 times a day. You missed a very clear point.

We are still overstaffed, I just think that the company should raise line values to ease the load on reserves who wont break guarantee anyway. JPs email was a crock of sh t. To say that they are keeping reserve coverage low partly to allow people to build hours is nonsense. They are not doing this with our best interests in mind.

 

[ace6453]

Can anyone tell me why reserves who credit 90 hours should not make 90 hours of pay?

What are you talking about? If you credit 90 hours on reserve, you are paid 90 hours. It makes no difference what your block is. The only thing that requires 75 hours of block is to get 3.75 for every day on reserve that you didn't "work".

 

[OCP]

What are you talking about? If you credit 90 hours on reserve, you are paid 90 hours. It makes no difference what your block is. The only thing that requires 75 hours of block is to get 3.75 for every day on reserve that you didn't "work".

Exactly if you are talking about ASA you get paid for what you credit. Block has nothing to do with it.

 

[PositionandHold]

What are you talking about? If you credit 90 hours on reserve, you are paid 90 hours. It makes no difference what your block is. The only thing that requires 75 hours of block is to get 3.75 for every day on reserve that you didn't "work".

Yeah my mistake. I was told that by a colleague recently and I apparently misunderstood what he meant. Having never broken guarantee on reserve it didnt really click as right or wrong to me.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I didn't get my point across properly, and Data, you seem to have misinterpreted it. I don't think we are understaffed. Where did I say we were? I think we should raise line values. My frustrations have to do simply with the fact that it is impossible to break guarantee because of contract language, and so we have no real motivation to work our butts off on reserve. Lately I have worked every day of reserve for 75 hours of pay. I can "credit" 90 hours, but wont see any of that money unless I block over 75 hours of pay. And with 15 hour 4 days, it seals the deal. Our contract was written with the well-being of senior guys in mind. Can anyone tell me why reserves who credit 90 hours should not make 90 hours of pay?

My comment about senior d0ouche bags had nothing to do with being jealous of their seniority. I could never be jealous of someone who spent the past 20 years flying to Buttfu king Egypt and back 4 times a day. You missed a very clear point.

We are still overstaffed, I just think that the company should raise line values to ease the load on reserves who wont break guarantee anyway. JPs email was a crock of sh t. To say that they are keeping reserve coverage low partly to allow people to build hours is nonsense. They are not doing this with our best interests in mind.

I will explain this so you can understand it...ok. Brad has a mania as it relates to the reserve concept.
Brad hates and loves reserves at the same time. He loves the ability to work a pilot without regards to most of the contract work rules that lineholders enjoy. Brad also hates the concept of paying pilots to stay home and do nothing. Hence your lack of ability to break guarantee, and flying 74.99 hrs a month.
The bucket system is one of Brads early masterpieces he "pioneered" at SKYW, we hated it and still do to this date.
I am not sure where your "entitlement" towards breaking guarantee comes from, does your contract guarantee the ability to break guarantee, of course it does, that very same contract allows the company to shift reserve flying around to prevent you from breaking guarantee, unless they need you bad enough.
Brad will continue to remove cash from your pocket one little bit at a time, you will notice, but will not get mad enough to put your beer down and do anything except complain on F/I.
Brad is a Master of "death by a thousand cuts" , his cloaking device is having been a "line pilot", except the last time he was an average "line pilot" was in the Metro.
Enjoy him! Glad he is your problem and not ours any longer.
PBr

 

[CX880]

I will explain this so you can understand it...ok. Brad has a mania as it relates to the reserve concept.
Brad hates and loves reserves at the same time. He loves the ability to work a pilot without regards to most of the contract work rules that lineholders enjoy. Brad also hates the concept of paying pilots to stay home and do nothing. Hence your lack of ability to break guarantee, and flying 74.99 hrs a month.
The bucket system is one of Brads early masterpieces he "pioneered" at SKYW, we hated it and still do to this date.
I am not sure where your "entitlement" towards breaking guarantee comes from, does your contract guarantee the ability to break guarantee, of course it does, that very same contract allows the company to shift reserve flying around to prevent you from breaking guarantee, unless they need you bad enough.
Brad will continue to remove cash from your pocket one little bit at a time, you will notice, but will not get mad enough to put your beer down and do anything except complain on F/I.
Brad is a Master of "death by a thousand cuts" , his cloaking device is having been a "line pilot", except the last time he was an average "line pilot" was in the Metro.
Enjoy him! Glad he is your problem and not ours any longer.
PBr

Do you guys at Skywest still have to fake your mothers death to get out of a scheduling jam? hahahahaha.... hahahahahah. hahahaha

 

[StrykerFL]

Understaffed, uh yeah...

They are understaffed... The word is that there has been a lot of sick calls lately and do to ASA being so understaffed sometimes flights cannot be operated due to lack of reserve coverage.

Word came down from the top from SH/CT for the Chief Pilots office to begin strictly enforcing the attendance policy. Rumor I heard was that like 20 plus 19 B disciplinary hearing letters were sent out last week for people with excessive occurrence's. I guess threatening people with their jobs are supposed to improve moral.

Anyone here know if punitive attendance policies are legal particularly when you can prove that you were sick, i.e. doctors note.

 

[SLUF4]

i'm still waiting on someone to tell me the block hours we fly today versus a year or two ago. where is the data?

 

[Roger Dat]

If we are so understaffed why have I never, not once ever broken guarantee on reserve in the last 7 months?

Because you don't bid reserve......

 

[jstyle13]

Because you don't bid reserve......

I've been on res for almost 2.5 years now. I've only broken 75 once and that was last summer. There are a handful of guys who break 75 each month and they are scr cmf's that have tue-thurs GDO's. Scheduling is pretty good at making sure everyone gets 55-75 credit hours a month.

As much as people like to say we are short staffed when the bucket list gets down to a few guys and they keep tacking assignments on to us reserves, the truth is probably closer to adequate staffing. Until nearly all res's get 75+ hr's and line holders get extended, I would imagine they will stick with what we got.

Now come summer......

 

[79%N1]

Because you don't bid reserve......

Um, I do bid reserve because I am forced to.

 

[Abernathy]

They are understaffed... The word is that there has been a lot of sick calls lately and do to ASA being so understaffed sometimes flights cannot be operated due to lack of reserve coverage.

Word came down from the top from SH/CT for the Chief Pilots office to begin strictly enforcing the attendance policy. Rumor I heard was that like 20 plus 19 B disciplinary hearing letters were sent out last week for people with excessive occurrence's. I guess threatening people with their jobs are supposed to improve moral.

Anyone here know if punitive attendance policies are legal particularly when you can prove that you were sick, i.e. doctors note.

Call the FAA and tell them you were disciplined for calling in sick and now feel forced to fly sick for fear of losing your job.

OR just dont worry about it. Good thing about being unionized.

 

[Data]

Call the FAA and tell them you were disciplined for calling in sick and now feel forced to fly sick for fear of losing your job.

OR just dont worry about it. Good thing about being unionized.

Yeah, cause when I hear a guy with 10+ occurrences whining about wanting to call the FAA, I side with them....

 

[777forever]

They are understaffed... The word is that there has been a lot of sick calls lately and do to ASA being so understaffed sometimes flights cannot be operated due to lack of reserve coverage.

Word came down from the top from SH/CT for the Chief Pilots office to begin strictly enforcing the attendance policy. Rumor I heard was that like 20 plus 19 B disciplinary hearing letters were sent out last week for people with excessive occurrence's. I guess threatening people with their jobs are supposed to improve moral.

Anyone here know if punitive attendance policies are legal particularly when you can prove that you were sick, i.e. doctors note.

Correct. ASA's running the reserve staffing pretty thin. Reason is they are trying to save money by keeping as many pilots as close to 75 hrs as possible by having low line values. This increases the number of lineholders and many lines have min days off resulting in less opentime pickups and more work to keep the reserves busy. As a result there are a few days where the reserve coverage is little to none.

Come summer time they will up the line values and increase reserve coverage. And if we run out of reserves for a particular day they'll just extend people. When extensions start happening on a regular basis we will be approaching an understaffed situation.

 

[restart]

So! Anybody been extended yet? Anybody seen flights cancelled due to lack of staffing?

 

[jetracer5]

Call the FAA and tell them you were disciplined for calling in sick and now feel forced to fly sick for fear of losing your job.

OR just dont worry about it. Good thing about being unionized.

I called in sick and the chief pilot said I was in risk of being fired......So I said "So your forcing me to fly sick?" Chief Pilot quote "Now I'm not telling you to fly sick but with the amount of occurrences you have you can loose your job and the union will not be able to help you" ?????????? This is starting to get out of hand and somebody (ie FAA, NTSB, ALPA) needs to address company policy vs federal law. I WILL NOT BE FORCED TO FLY SICK! BTW I got FMLA and got everything covered.........

 

[jetracer5]

Yeah, cause when I hear a guy with 10+ occurrences whining about wanting to call the FAA, I side with them....

Hey most companies give you about 20+ days of sick coverage. I have only missed 6 days in the last year.....guess what I have 6 occurrences! The occurrence policy needs to be trashed and a more mainstream sick policy NEEDS to be put in place. We dont even get close to the sick pay that most companies provide.

 

[Tarzan]

So! Anybody been extended yet? Anybody seen flights cancelled due to lack of staffing?

Yes. Was extended early this month.

 

[wms]

The next contract needs PTO (personal time off) days that we use at our discression without occurences. That's one of the reasons I voted no on contract '07.

We're not going to get much more money so we need to work on issues like this, as well as insurance. It's insulting that grown men and women are threatened with occurences for using the time they've accrued.