ASA: SH says FO's are going to Delta

[Rally]

QUARANTEED? How long where they kept QUARANTEED? Did they have rabies?

 

[pdub20s]

On a sidenote, do you think this is right?

http://www.obap.org/

Yes I do! I am actually a member. Its a great organization to network through and meet a lot of nice guys and gals. And not all members are black either. One of my good friends in OBAP is white.

Coopervane, I agree with you. This hip-hop culture is rotting the brains of young minorities. They rather put down a book and pick up a Microphone or a Kilo of Cocaine. What they see on TV gives a distorted view of reality. And sad to say, some parents are ok with letting the TV raise their kids

 

[PCL_128]

Yes I do! I am actually a member. Its a great organization to network through and meet a lot of nice guys and gals. And not all members are black either. One of my good friends in OBAP is white.

So would it be ok for someone to start OWAP? Or would that be "racist?" Afterall, it would just be an "organization to network through and meet a lot of nice guys and gals."

 

[pdub20s]

So would it be ok for someone to start OWAP? Or would that be "racist?" Afterall, it would just be an "organization to network through and meet a lot of nice guys and gals."

They do have one, its called the KKK. lol jk. but for real, whites are not a minority in this country,

 

[PCL_128]

They do have one, its called the KKK. lol jk.

Yeah, real funny.

but for real, whites are not a minority in this country,

What does that have to do with anything? You think you get special rights simply because you belong to a minority group? Women aren't even in the minority, but they have WIA.

The question stands: would you have a problem with it if someone started OWAP and airline HR departments gave special treatment to OWAP members as they currently do to OBAP members?

 

[pdub20s]

Yeah, real funny.



What does that have to do with anything? You think you get special rights simply because you belong to a minority group? Women aren't even in the minority, but they have WIA.

The question stands: would you have a problem with it if someone started OWAP and airline HR departments gave special treatment to OWAP members as they currently do to OBAP members?

Dude you cant compare the two. These groups are not formed to get special rights for its members. They are aimed at networking and the betterment of the organizations members and which the community it serves. Example, OBAP is not 100% black, its for people who support the views of the organization. Look at their website and read their mission statement. No where does it say "....So we can get special treatment"

 

[atlcrjdriver]

The question stands: would you have a problem with it if someone started OWAP and airline HR departments gave special treatment to OWAP members as they currently do to OBAP members?

You already have one but I don't believe you or I could afford to join - it's called the trust fund kids.

 

[FFFO]

keep this up! this is great! all you guys pissing and moaning about special treatment are just outing yourselves and proving A-GAIN why groups form to help one another in getting a job in this latently racist, misogynistic career field... flame on boys!

 

[FishandFly]

keep this up! this is great! all you guys pissing and moaning about special treatment are just outing yourselves and proving A-GAIN why groups form to help one another in getting a job in this latently racist, misogynistic career field... flame on boys!

frankly I don't care about your race or your gynis. I just side with the supreme court in thinking that equality shall determine the success of a candidate, not the other factors previously mentioned.

PDUB 20, what percentage of OBP is black?

 

[FishandFly]

You already have one but I don't believe you or I could afford to join - it's called the trust fund kids.

trust funds don't have anything to do with a argument regarding a race based organization question.

 

[stage]

Does anybody know the actual numbers/percentages of who has been interviewed or hired at Delta so far? Or are we just ASSuming that a disproportionate amount of minorities are being hired?

I would love to hear from someone that is in a newhire class right now...

 

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White guys (including me) might as well face the truth. Minorities and women and more marketable. If CO, does not hire them, FedEx will, or DAL. There is acutally a sort of competition for these candidates. Human resource departments make these standards and probably enjoy getting out of their cubicles to attend conventions and events on Company expense accounts.

At least at Delta they have to go through the same objective tests and succeed, just like any other applicant. The computer does not know who is at the keyboard.

Being a minority is probably equal to being the next door neighbor of a well liked Delta Captain. It helps you get your stuff looked at. It is not a system that rewards incompetents with seniority numbers.

 

[StrykerFL]

Minorities were not always given preferential treatment; well at least according to this anyways.

http://www.negrospaceprogram.com/

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Tarzan]

Dude you cant compare the two. These groups are not formed to get special rights for its members. They are aimed at networking and the betterment of the organizations members and which the community it serves. Example, OBAP is not 100% black, its for people who support the views of the organization. Look at their website and read their mission statement. No where does it say "....So we can get special treatment"

Not getting special rights? How is that a well qualified white male can overlooked for a less qualified woman or other "minority"?

If anything, this affirmative action has lead to the stereotypes you see today. Fifty years ago, these were needed programs. However, most people I deal with today could really care less about what skin color you have or your sex when comes to how well you do your job. The back side to it, is that white males are scared to death to point out a deficiency in a "protected" group because all they need to do is scream racist or sexual harassment and you are judged guilty. Why? All in the cause of being inclusive.

This sort of garbage needs to end. If you want the job, work hard and apply yourself and take the corrective suggestions as just that. End affirmative action and bigotry of low expectations.

 

[Paris]

However, most people I deal with today could really care less about what skin color you have or your sex when comes to how well you do your job.

I wonder who you deal with then. I can't count the number of times I've heard Captains make disparaging remarks about females. I'm not talking about kitchen jokes either. I think its safe to say if you are a female pilot on the radio, just assume that as soon as your transmission is complete, there will be cockpit jokes in other aircraft soon to follow. You could be a check airman with superb skills, but it won't matter. Its sad really, considering these guys often have daughters and sisters.

 

[Tarzan]

I wonder who you deal with then. I can't count the number of times I've heard Captains make disparaging remarks about females. I'm not talking about kitchen jokes either. I think its safe to say if you are a female pilot on the radio, just assume that as soon as your transmission is complete, there will be cockpit jokes in other aircraft soon to follow. You could be a check airman with superb skills, but it won't matter. Its sad really, considering these guys often have daughters and sisters.

Heck, that is about as bad as it gets with the kitchen jokes. Some are good pilots but there are too many that get by in the business because they are female. How many male pilots get away with the crap females do? You want to see that sort of stuff end? Sh1tcan the ones that give the rest a bad name. Don't play that politically correctness card.

 

[bailout]

empty kitchen jokes???

nah, more like empty dance poles.....

 

[Plainsman]

Along the lines of minorities, my captain said the city was painting the wall around taxiway victor to turn into a mural with the likes of MLK, Rosa Parks and other notable NAACP leaders. Anyone heard that one?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Every day is an opening day

 

[pdub20s]

frankly I don't care about your race or your gynis. I just side with the supreme court in thinking that equality shall determine the success of a candidate, not the other factors previously mentioned.

PDUB 20, what percentage of OBP is black?

Im not sure of the percentage. but in regards to a previous post about quotas... Quotas are illegal per Supreme Court. And I believe that the playing field should be level for everyone in this industry when it comes to applying for jobs. No man or woman should get the job over another because he or she is a minority or a female.