ASA Sept. New Hire Classes Cancelled???

[McNugent]

Just heard ASA is cancelling the September Basic Indoc classes. Anyone know anything about this??? Is it a beginning to the end of hiring with the Skywest deal, or catch up time for the Training guys?

 

[Erlanger]

From what I hear, Skywest will have a base in Atlanta and as ASA pilots leave and the pilot group dwindles, Skywest will switch the flying over to Skywest and in years to come, ASA will cease to exist.

 

[jehtplane]

From what I hear, Skywest will have a base in Atlanta and as ASA pilots leave and the pilot group dwindles, Skywest will switch the flying over to Skywest and in years to come, ASA will cease to exist.

Yeah right, here is the first one folks!

 

[jehtplane]

Just heard ASA is cancelling the Septemner Basic Indoc classes. Anyone know anything about this??? Is it a beginning to the end of hiring with the Skywest deal, or catch up time for the Training guys?

They are pushed back because we are behind on IOE and short Instructors.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Brilliant!!! We're already short and they stop hiring.. Dump our managment, PLEASE!!! I hope skywest doesn't want ex TWA managment failures dragging them down. What are skywest's medical benifits like?

 

[jehtplane]

Brilliant!!! We're already short and they stop hiring.. Dump our managment, PLEASE!!! I hope skywest doesn't want ex TWA managment failures dragging them down. What are skywest's medical benifits like?

What do you want to do hire these people put them through training and let them sit for 3 or 4 weeks?

 

[Erlanger]

Skywest announced that Bryan LaBrecque will serve as "interim" president of ASA.
while Jerry Atkin will serve as chairman of the board and chief executive officer (CEO) of SkyWest Airlines and ASA. Brad Rich will serve as chief financial officer (CFO) for SkyWest Airlines and ASA. Ron Reber will serve as president of SkyWest Airlines.
I guess that interim title means he'll be out of a job eventually.

 

[cbrown1]

I havn't heard anything about my class on the 29th. Anyone have any info on it?

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

Brilliant!!! We're already short and they stop hiring.. Dump our managment, PLEASE!!! I hope skywest doesn't want ex TWA managment failures dragging them down. What are skywest's medical benifits like?

They're short on captains more than they are short on FO's. They need to get capt's through IOE so they are concentrating on that first, then will hire more FO's

 

[McNugent]

Yeah I'm in it, and just found out we are still on for the 29th.

 

[Erlanger]

If they were smart they would of but probably weren't allowed to. Skywest had no announced additional flying and has over the last few months hired several hundred pilots who are not flying. What do you think that means? Why were they hired and trained and continue to hire and put through class even now at a rate of 30 per week? If you don't believe me, call your Skywest buddys.

 

[jehtplane]

Yeah I'm in it, and just found out we are still on for the 29th.

Relax boys and girls, you will be alright we are getting caught up with IOE, get some rest the firehose is coming.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

If they were smart they would of but probably weren't allowed to. Skywest had no announced additional flying and has over the last few months hired several hundred pilots who are not flying. What do you think that means? Why were they hired and trained and continue to hire and put through class even now at a rate of 30 per week? If you don't believe me, call your Skywest buddys.

Yeah...I'm sure they are hiring these people so they can eventually replace the entire ASA pilot group. Freakin' drama queens...

 

[jehtplane]

If they were smart they would of but probably weren't allowed to. Skywest had no announced additional flying and has over the last few months hired several hundred pilots who are not flying. What do you think that means? Why were they hired and trained and continue to hire and put through class even now at a rate of 30 per week? If you don't believe me, call your Skywest buddys.

Yeah OK

 

[FL990]

If they were smart they would of but probably weren't allowed to. Skywest had no announced additional flying and has over the last few months hired several hundred pilots who are not flying. What do you think that means? Why were they hired and trained and continue to hire and put through class even now at a rate of 30 per week? If you don't believe me, call your Skywest buddys.

my understanding is that skywest continues to increase there flying with United. I was under the impressions that is what there new hires were for.

Anyway...Its laughable to even suggest that there will be a staple to the bottom of the list.

What advantage does that give to skywest....oh yeah, heres an idea, lets demote a bunch of qualified captains and pay training to upgrade a bunch of FO's. No...furthermore, what recourse action do skywest pilots have to advocate this...a strike...oh wait, they don't have a union. But, ASA does and what we will want is a fair integration...fair to both Skywest and ASA pilot...anything less and I can guarantee we will ALL WALK...Then, skywest is left with an airline and planes...but NO PILOTS.

 

[Erlanger]

Yeah...I'm sure they are hiring these people so they can eventually replace the entire ASA pilot group. Freakin' drama queens...

Read my post at the top. It will happen over a long period of time, probably years.
This was a done deal months ago, about when they started hiring like crazy. Too much of a coincidence you think? The Vice President said today in a company memo, that it was a done deal months ago, and apologized that the rumor was all over the company for months and that everyone was concerned and he felt bad that they couldn't say anything about it.

 

[cbrown1]

Yeah I'm in it, and just found out we are still on for the 29th.

Hey Mcnugent, when did you interview and when were you notified that you were hired? I'm just curious.

 

[jehtplane]

my understanding is that skywest continues to increase there flying with United. I was under the impressions that is what there new hires were for.

Anyway...Its laughable to even suggest that there will be a staple to the bottom of the list.

What advantage does that give to skywest....oh yeah, heres an idea, lets demote a bunch of qualified captains and pay training to upgrade a bunch of FO's. No...furthermore, what recourse action do skywest pilots have to advocate this...a strike...oh wait, they don't have a union. But, ASA does and what we will want is a fair integration...fair to both Skywest and ASA pilot...anything less and I can guarantee we will ALL WALK...Then, skywest is left with an airline and planes...but NO PILOTS.

I really think this is a positive for ASA and SKYWEST, yes if there ever is merging then it needs to be fair, we are both , now , wholly owned subsidiaries of SKYWEST, Inc. So what is the difference between us?

 

[McNugent]

Interviewed in late May, couldnt take the July 25 class so I'm in on the 29th. Found out a couple weeks after the interview about the "conditional hire" pending the drug screening and stuff.

 

[Erlanger]

Anyway...Its laughable to even suggest that there will be a staple to the bottom of the list.

What advantage does that give to skywest....oh yeah, heres an idea, lets demote a bunch of qualified captains and pay training to upgrade a bunch of FO's. No...furthermore, what recourse action do skywest pilots have to advocate this...a strike...oh wait, they don't have a union. But, ASA does and what we will want is a fair integration...fair to both Skywest and ASA pilot...anything less and I can guarantee we will ALL WALK...Then, skywest is left with an airline and planes...but NO PILOTS.

Ther'll be no integration. From the Skywest website.

"Seniorities will not be merged since the companies are independent."

ref: http://www.skywest.com/qa/index.php
It says that at the bottom.

 

[MELIT]

my understanding is that skywest continues to increase there flying with United. I was under the impressions that is what there new hires were for.

Anyway...Its laughable to even suggest that there will be a staple to the bottom of the list.

What advantage does that give to skywest....oh yeah, heres an idea, lets demote a bunch of qualified captains and pay training to upgrade a bunch of FO's. No...furthermore, what recourse action do skywest pilots have to advocate this...a strike...oh wait, they don't have a union. But, ASA does and what we will want is a fair integration...fair to both Skywest and ASA pilot...anything less and I can guarantee we will ALL WALK...Then, skywest is left with an airline and planes...but NO PILOTS.

YOU will guarantee you all WILL WALK? More tuff guy talk, put down the beer and go to bed.

 

[jehtplane]

Read my post at the top. It will happen over a long period of time, probably years.
This was a done deal months ago, about when they started hiring like crazy. Too much of a coincidence you think? The Vice President said today in a company memo, that it was a done deal months ago, and apologized that the rumor was all over the company for months and that everyone was concerned and he felt bad that they couldn't say anything about it.

ASA has been hiring as many as we can handle also.

 

[cbrown1]

Interviewed in late May, couldnt take the July 25 class so I'm in on the 29th. Found out a couple weeks after the interview about the "conditional hire" pending the drug screening and stuff.

Oh ok, I was just wondering. I interviewed in late June and found out mid July that I was going to be in the August 22nd class but then that turned into the 29th. Do you know how large our class is going to be by chance?

 

[McNugent]

I really think this is a positive for ASA and SKYWEST, yes if there ever is merging then it needs to be fair, we are both , now , wholly owned subsidiaries of SKYWEST, Inc. So what is the difference between us?

Any idea on when we would be merged, and will be be able to bid anywhere in the Skywest system?

 

[jehtplane]

Ther'll be no integration. From the Skywest website.

"Seniorities will not be merged since the companies are independent."

ref: http://www.skywest.com/qa/index.php
It says that at the bottom.

Yeah and?

 

[McNugent]

Oh ok, I was just wondering. I interviewed in late June and found out mid July that I was going to be in the August 22nd class but then that turned into the 29th. Do you know how large our class is going to be by chance?

I think they were doing 14-16 a class with two classes a month. I'm sure jehtplane would have a solid answer for that one, he seems to know a lot about the training dept.

 

[jehtplane]

I think they were doing 14-16 a class with two classes a month. I'm sure jehtplane would have a solid answer for that one, he seems to know a lot about the training dept.

That's it, see ya soon!! You will have fun! We have a great training department.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

The Vice President said today in a company memo, that it was a done deal months ago, and apologized that the rumor was all over the company for months and that everyone was concerned and he felt bad that they couldn't say anything about it.

Wow, you guys don't just drink the Kool-Aid over there...you funnel it.

 

[McNugent]

Lookin forward to it. I got to experience it a little last fall, and have been wanting to come back since.

 

[goodpilotithink]

what does the ASA contract say about a buy out. I think a standard merger and fragmentation clause is in most ALPA contracts. I would think that ALPA ASA would insist on it. This would be like United buying American and wanting to keep the pilots on seperate list, wouldn't it?