ASA ramp fatalities 5/19

[asapilot]

Does anyone have any information about an accident regarding ground crew and ship 753EV in ATL on the 19th? I've not seen anything here or from the company, but the FAA reports 2 ground crew were killed and ship 753EV suffered extensive damage. The report only states that a tug struck the aircraft.

Be careful out there...

 

[rjcap]

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 753EV Make/Model: CRJ7 Description: CANADAIR CRJ-700 REGIONAL JET
Date: 05/19/2007 Time: 1918

Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: ATLANTA State: GA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT DAMAGED WHEN STRUCK BY A TUG, ATLANTA, GA.

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2
# Crew: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 2

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Standing Operation: OTHER


FAA FSDO: COLLEGE PARK, GA (SO11) Entry date: 05/21/2007

 

[79%N1]

How come I haven't heard anything about this? Nothing on news, paper, or company info? Weird.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

How come I haven't heard anything about this? Nothing on news, paper, or company info? Weird.

Because the management team you seem to be so fond of did not feel that it was important enough to communicate to you. It makes them look bad. Therefore, they fail to distribute news of the incident to the rest of their valued team members.

As I understand it, a tug with two occupants struck the aircraft and both tug occupants were killed. I don't know if the aircraft was stationary or moving at the time. One caveat... I haven't heard anything from what I consider a reliable source, but that's what I have heard so far.

God bless the deceased and their families.

 

[Whataburger]

Runaway Fuel Truck hit the tug. http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=10271

 

[79%N1]

Bad news, for sure. They must have really been moving to have been fatally injured.

Ps. I hope the "fond of remark" was tongue in cheek, because I'm not sure how I could be labeled as 'fond of management', as I am one of their biggest critics.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

I had not heard about the fuel truck part of the equation. That is not the first time ASIG has caused havoc on the ramp. One of our rampers was severely burned a few years ago when an ASIG truck took off in flames and the driver bailed out. Our ramper jumped on the truck and stopped it, but he was severely burned in the process. God knows how many passengers could have been killed during that little misadventure, not to mention this most recent one. How many times do these idiots have to jeopardize safety on the ramp before our valiant leaders decide to fire them???

Yes, the "fond of" comment was tongue in cheek.

God bless the families, and God Damm (excuse the language) our management team for continuing to allow the ASIG morons to jeopardize the safety of our ramp in order to save a couple of bucks.

 

[asapilot]

Runaway Fuel Truck hit the tug. http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=10271

That article's dated 2001.

I too am a bit bothered by the fact that management has made no mention of this as far as I can tell. I'm out in LAX and I only heard about it from my F/O, who's TDY from ATL, who'd heard someone mention it on the crew bus. When I got home today, I looked it up and sure enough, there it was as posted above.

Nothing on any of the ATL news sites either.

 

[Tomct]

Because the management team you seem to be so fond of did not feel that it was important enough to communicate to you. It makes them look bad. Therefore, they fail to distribute news of the incident to the rest of their valued team members.

As I understand it, a tug with two occupants struck the aircraft and both tug occupants were killed. I don't know if the aircraft was stationary or moving at the time. One caveat... I haven't heard anything from what I consider a reliable source, but that's what I have heard so far.

God bless the deceased and their families.

Of course we don't need to hear about it....why....because we are NOT PART OF THE TEAM!!!! Remember, Pilots are to blame for EVERYTHING, I am surprised that they did not blame this on the little progress made on the contract!
God Bless the families of the deceased!

 

[crjskipper]

how can you monkeys blame asa management - delta and airtran also use asig in atlanta - not only us - they fuel about every airline in atlanta?

maybe, just maybe they didnt have all the facts yesterday to put out a story to make the pilots happy? could you imagine the faa and 11alive were wrong a bit in their facts? never?

do you guys blame asa management for having ugly wives - probably.

 

[WWEfan]

How do you know their wives are ugly?

 

[Huck]

I was on the ramp the night that guy ran into the EMB prop in 1999. You cannot overestimate how dangerous the ramp is.

I do not set foot on the FDX ramp without an orange hunting cap on. I tried to start a trend but it hasn't worked so far.....

 

[ohplease!]

Of course we don't need to hear about it....why....because we are NOT PART OF THE TEAM!!!! Remember, Pilots are to blame for EVERYTHING, I am surprised that they did not blame this on the little progress made on the contract!
God Bless the families of the deceased!

You use the death of two people to bitch about the company? What a piece of $hit you are. You are truly the weakest link. Goodbye and good ridence.
Off to the ignore list for you, idiot.

 

[AMANSWORLD]

Have they published any names yet?

My condolences to their families.

 

[79%N1]

They haven't posted names, or anything. No mention of this anywhere! I am surprised this wasn't looping on CNN or Fox. There isn't even a mention on their websites, unless I missed them. Eerie silence from the company. I don't buy the getting the details right theory. At the very least, an mention of this, just stating there has been an unfortnate accident on the ramp, and details will follow would suffice. Terrible to sweep this under the rug.

 

[Tarzan]

I doubt it is an effort to sweep it under the rug. More than likely it's all about liability right now and how's going to sue who.

Tomct, you need to get some help. Find a hobby or something. But for all of our sakes, quit acting like ASA is your entire life.

 

[Leroy Smith]

Had a delay coming from the outstation, hard to figure because it was CAVU in ATL. Pulled in later a couple of stands down with the cops still there and the spill mats spread out. Heard second hand that it was a mutli-tug crash and that at least one ramper had been run-over in the midst of it all. Also that the PD were to be pressing charges....

Strange that there was no media report. Surely someone in the terminal with a cellphone or a "reporter" with a scanner would have spread the word, especially with fatalities. Never heard a peep from the company or otherwise about that other aircraft-tug altercation back in January, but that one wasnt quite as messy and was covered by the dark of night. I have seen 846 back on the line lately though.

Sounds like inside the zipperline is the most dangerous place we operate. Be careful.....

 

[hmmurdock]

Greetings..One of the rampers told me there were some injuries (broken leg, etc), but she did'nt mention fatalities. That would explain why no news reports. Maybe because there is no news.

Take care

 

[~~~^~~~]

In any event - it is just terrible to hear news like this. God bless them and their families.

 

[ohplease!]

3 injuries:

a Delta ramper with a broken ankle

an ASA ramper with a broken collar bone

and another ASA ramper with minor injuries from a bag cart that got away.


The ASA ramper pulled out in front of the Delta ramper and they collided. Both came off their tugs and one of the tugs continued on until running into an ASA 70 seater with approx. 60 PAX aboard.

Non-News event.