ASA president resigns.....

[Sinca3]

Rumor has it ASA president W.E. ¨Skip¨ Barnette has resigned from DAL as of Friday. He is now a full time ASA employee.
What does this mean? Probably not much...he will still be a puppet to Jerry. Skip just doesn´t want to loose his retirement from DAL so he got out while he still could.
I wonder what his pay check is now? I wonder if the survival of ASA is in his best intrest? I wonder when DAL is going to declare bankruptcy

 

[flyer172r]

Is it possible that Delta asked him to resign so they wouldn't have to pay him as part of their cost-cutting measures?

 

[RubberDuck]

Prerequisite for the sale of ASA

 

[CF34-3B1]

As we all pick up the phone to call Higher Power............

 

[wms]

Prerequisite for the sale of ASA

No one would buy ASA, only to have DAL shift the flying else where. It would like buying swamp land. If this is true, it's probably so SB doesn't have to share in the DAL paycuts, after all, ASA is hugely profitable. It's the same logic we're using in our negotiations. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[Freebrd]

You are all wrong. Haven't heard if Skip 'retired' from DAL or not, but it really doesn't matter as he has one of Leo's protected pensions for the senior executives SO THEY WOULDN'T LEAVE!!! What a joke..

He gets his $800K no matter what happens.

 

[Tomct]

That is so SB can drive his shiney new corvette to work without stopping at "Widget City" on Virginia Avenue!!! Plus, us and Comair are the only profitable entities at DAL's.... Lord knows that the mainline pilots are going to ride their pay rates into bankruptsy!!! Bye Bye Scope Clause!!

 

[General Lee]

Grinstein doesn't really like the RJs too much, and after a Chap 11--we will probably fly for the same rates that you would have flown them for on 100 seaters---thanks to a judge. So, I wouldn't get soooo excited there Tomct.



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[spinproof]

Grinstein doesn't really like the RJs too much, and after a Chap 11--we will probably fly for the same rates that you would have flown them for on 100 seaters---thanks to a judge. So, I wouldn't get soooo excited there Tomct.



Bye Bye--General Lee

Oh I think he's right on here! With the profit they are providing,whats not to like? Go back to sleep now and dream of those halcyon days when you could afford to look down on the "occupiers" of terminal "C" as the little people. Instead of Heir Apparents to the throne you and your scope buddies pi$$ed away!!!!!!!!!

 

[VABB]

My sources tell me that Mesa is going to buy ASA. And, after pay is adjusted, the company will be even more profitable.

You guys at ASA crack me up. Before 9/11, you all would kill to be in the General's spot. United and Delta was the place to be. Your little commuter airline was just a place to build time so you could go to a major. "Oh I hate this place, anyone know if Delta is interviewing this month? I have to get out of here".

Now all of a sudden ASA is the place to be. All the majors are bad and now you guys are accusing the majors of stealing you're flying.

Just admit it: ASA sucks, you guys are stuck there, and you're pi$$ed off because you're never going to fly that 777 to exotic destinations. Istead, you're trying every excuse in the book to try and justify your existence there because instead, you're flying your little jets to exotic places like rural Alabama.

Remember, if people were'nt willing to work for food stamps (and in some cases pay for training) this wouldn't be an issue. Instead of RJ's, there would be more 737's and such flying those routes and with a mainline paint job. And a lot of you would be flying them. But noooo, you had the fly that jet. And at any payscale the company wanted you to do it at. Well, look where it got you. Reality has finally hit, and this is where you are.

But hey, the bimbo at the bar doesen't know the difference between Delta and ASA. At least you get to fly a jet and use your "I'm an airline pilot" phrase around everybody you know. Just don't forget to include the word Connection after you say Delta.

 

[spinproof]

My sources tell me she'll still be able to tell the difference...you'll still be the big mouth drunk at the bar with a very small peni$.

 

[DrunkIrishman]

VABB-

You're right! Out of the nearly 1700 pilots at ASA, we ALL feel that way! Yup, I sure am pissed.

You know, some of us actually understand the trickle down effect from trunk to feeder. I hope that Big D makes it without bankruptcy. Things could be very bad at ASA if Delta files.

 

[VABB]

My sources tell me she'll still be able to tell the difference...you'll still be the big mouth drunk at the bar with a very small peni$.

At least on my MAJOR salary I can afford a peni$ enlargement surgery and buy the good booze and the good women.

I would rather have a small peni$ than a small regional-sized wallet.

 

[BoilerUP]

At least on my MAJOR salary I can afford a peni$ enlargement surgery and buy the good booze and the good women.

As long as you are humble and aren't condescending about it...

VABB, your argument fails to realize one thing: DALPA didn't want the "small jet" flying, thats why it went to ASA and Comair. They were "too good" for it just a few short years ago (God forbid a military pilot have to fly a "commuter" jet after stepping out of his F16).

 

[spinproof]

At least on my MAJOR salary I can afford a peni$ enlargement surgery and buy the good booze and the good women.

I would rather have a small peni$ than a small regional-sized wallet.

Yes I can understand that. That goes along with your inflated ego. You'll certainly have enough time to get that ego worked on while the judge decides how much your "Main-lined" sized wallet will be reduced. Hmmm and to think if anyone were to have thought that a little less ego could have solved this problem. To think that this all could have been avoided by a simple staple....my word how the mighty have fallen.....and continue the spiral while re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!!! Even being reduced to hanging out on the "Regionals" board!!!! One would think you,The General, NYR, 737FO are looking for love!!!

I will say that I'm sure you'll still have enough left to buy good booze.

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

Exotic 777 destinations

<<never going to fly that 777 to exotic destinations>>

exotic.....like Orlando, Denver, O'Hare, and Dulles.

So exotic, I feel like doin' the Hula just THINKING about it......


snap snap waitress!......another 'Colada here, please!!!!!

 

[VABB]

Yes I can understand that. That goes along with your inflated ego. You'll certainly have enough time to get that ego worked on while the judge decides how much your "Main-lined" sized wallet will be reduced. Hmmm and to think if anyone were to have thought that a little less ego could have solved this problem. To think that this all could have been avoided by a simple staple....my word how the mighty have fallen.....and continue the spiral while re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic!!! Even being reduced to hanging out on the "Regionals" board!!!! One would think you,The General, NYR, 737FO are looking for love!!!

I will say that I'm sure you'll still have enough left to buy good booze.

First, you are assuming that I fly for Delta. O.K., let's assume for a moment that I do, and the judge does throw out a few nickels from paychecks. Has it occurred to you that even with a 30% pay reduction, the salary at mainline still dwarfs anything a regional pilot could ever hope of earning?

Second, I'm not the one with the ego or the attitude. I am simply pointing out what has been obvious to most and oblivious to the regional crowd: you guys like to do ANYTHING to call yourselves "airline pilots". The regional pilots I have met over the years are the ones I've noticed who have the biggest egos and the worst attitudes. Why do you think so many of you say "Delta" or "Delta Connection" instead of ASA or Comair? I'll tell you why. You want people to think you fly for Delta but you don't want them to know the reality of what you fly. And Heaven forbid they ever find out how much you make. You are terrified when people use the phrase "puddle jumper". I think you have airframe envy.

This same attitude is the reason you are "stuck" where you are.

Your previous two responses have more than adequately proved my original thought. Thank you for making this very easy for me.

 

[doh]

VABB, No, I always say Comair. They give me a stupid look, and then I say, it's a wholey owned delta sudsidiary. Less stupid look follows.

 

[spinproof]

First, you are assuming that I fly for Delta. O.K., let's assume for a moment that I do, and the judge does throw out a few nickels from paychecks. Has it occurred to you that even with a 30% pay reduction, the salary at mainline still dwarfs anything a regional pilot could ever hope of earning? Yes of course this shows a complete absense of ego.

Second, I'm not the one with the ego or the attitude. I am simply pointing out what has been obvious to most and oblivious to the regional crowd: you guys like to do ANYTHING to call yourselves "airline pilots". The regional pilots I have met over the years are the ones I've noticed who have the biggest egos and the worst attitudes. Why do you think so many of you say "Delta" or "Delta Connection" instead of ASA or Comair? I'll tell you why. You want people to think you fly for Delta but you don't want them to know the reality of what you fly. And Heaven forbid they ever find out how much you make. You are terrified when people use the phrase "puddle jumper". I think you have airframe envy.
Speaking of Oblivious...like you have regional pilot envy!

This same attitude is the reason you are "stuck" where you are.
No Not stuck...Blessed does come to mind!

Your previous two responses have more than adequately proved my original thought. Thank you for making this very easy for me.

My sentiments exactly. But I'm not sure if you are referring to the Peni$ enlargement or the Ego-ectimy. Either way you're more than welcomed to the advise you and your buddies with extremly large wallets and small craniums receive here...just remind us you're here and we'll write more slowly!

 

[CF34-3B1]

I always say ASA when people ask.

A few weeks ago I said that to someone, they said "Oh yeah, I fly on you guys a lot. I love those 737s with the winglets you have."

 

[FDJ2]

VABB, your argument fails to realize one thing: DALPA didn't want the "small jet" flying, thats why it went to ASA and Comair.

How do you figure DALPA didn't want it? DALPA's opener encompassed the RJ70. By your logic neither ASA or CMR want to fly DL code in RJs, because just like the mainline pilots they have no scope requiring Delta to use ASA or CMR pilots for any DCI flying. Nothing in the DAL PWA would prevent DAL from having DAL pilots fly RJs.

Why are ASA/CMR pilots flying the RJs instead of DAL pilots? The bottomline is they'll do it for significantly less. That's just the way it goes. Wherever management finds an opportunity to outsourse to a less expensive supplier of labor, they'll use it. It doesn't mean the mainline pilots don't want the flying, it just means that management has found a less expensive supplier.

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

you (regional) guys like to do ANYTHING to call yourselves "airline pilots". The regional pilots have the biggest egos and the worst attitudes. Why do you think so many of you say "Delta" or "Delta Connection" instead of ASA or Comair? I'll tell you why. You want people to think you fly for Delta but you don't want them to know the reality of what you fly. And Heaven forbid they ever find out how much you make. You are terrified when people use the phrase "puddle jumper". I think you have airframe envy.

This same attitude is the reason you are "stuck" where you are.

VABB;

We all know this profession is based on merit, and that you are where you are because you are a superior pilot.

And us regional guys don't want the chicks to know that we fly RJ's 'cause then they'd know we were sucky pilots (hey, why else would Delta turn down our job app.?).

As long as we can convince them we are great pilots by using deception (for example, I pretend to clear my throat as I say "connection", so all they hear is "Delta"), within 5 minutes, we're naked in the sack!

And I used metallic paint to cover the "Connection", so my wings say "Delta".

It's pretty easy to disguise our wannabe status. I don't see a problem. Why are you so upset?

 

[MedFlyer]

How do you figure DALPA didn't want it?

If DALPA had wanted the RJ flying, they wouldn't have created a scope clause that allowed hundreds of RJ's to go to affiliates (owned or contract). If DALPA had really wanted the RJ flying, they would have demanded that all DL flying be done by DL pilots.

However, DALPA didn't want the RJ flying.

 

[VABB]

My sentiments exactly. But I'm not sure if you are referring to the Peni$ enlargement or the Ego-ectimy. Either way you're more than welcomed to the advise you and your buddies with extremly large wallets and small craniums receive here...just remind us you're here and we'll write more slowly!

We may have small craniums, but our bank accounts are big and fat. And the last time I checked, it was the green that paid off the mortgage.

And what kind of advice would you be referring to? What could I possibly learn from you that I didn't already receive in third grade??

 

[711-24-7]

VABB dude dont be so bitter. We are just working our way up the ladder. I am sure you had to start somewhere. So what if we don't like flying small planes and some of us don't use our regional name when we talk to the bimbos upstairs we are just working our way up the ladder. So we can use the major name when we fly for them. Once everything works out. And to most of us, regionals are still the way to get hours and move on to better places may be like Delta or United when you guys retire and when all of those Airlines do bounce back.


Well the biggest reminder to you is I am sure you started small and worked your way up to the major. ASA and Comair are places for some of us.

 

[VABB]

VABB dude dont be so bitter. We are just working our way up the ladder. I am sure you had to start somewhere. So what if we don't like flying small planes and some of us don't use our regional name when we talk to the bimbos upstairs we are just working our way up the ladder. So we can use the major name when we fly for them. Once everything works out. And to most of us, regionals are still the way to get hours and move on to better places may be like Delta or United when you guys retire and when all of those Airlines do bounce back.


Well the biggest reminder to you is I am sure you started small and worked your way up to the major. ASA and Comair are places for some of us.

Hey, you look like me! Are you from Kashmir?

 

[711-24-7]

No but the same country

 

[gordon24]

But hey, the bimbo at the bar doesen't know the difference between Delta and ASA. At least you get to fly a jet and use your "I'm an airline pilot" phrase around everybody you know. Just don't forget to include the word Connection after you say Delta.

Sorry Dude, I didn't know that fat old bimbo at the bar was your old lady! Oh, please tell her I left my DCI hat under your bed and I want it back. And, sorry about leaving the seat up.

 

[wil]

VABB- Don't get your turbine in a wad! One thing I have learned in this business is that humility goes a long way! You may have a "captain's house" now but a Bankrupcy Judge can change all that overnight.
I want mainline to grow and prosper. At DCI we know our job is to provide feed. We don't need to get in a pi$$ing contest. Most of us would like to move on up the ladder. Cheers, Wil

 

[Tomct]

Man Vabb, you must be one of those guys who complains the intire time he is at work. Don't for get that it is "US LITTLE GUYS ASA & COMAIR" who are paying for your retirement!!! OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!! I mean while you still have it!!

I know plenty of Delta pilots and they are very good friends. The SMART ones know who is REALLY paying the bills and it sho're AINT YOU!!!!!!

And by the way.....NOT everyone wants to work at Delta or United!! We all get tired of hearing how great you guys "THINK" you are....But I will still give you a ride DIRECTLY home!! Oh Yeah, I forgot, the only delta pilot that knows what that means is the 777 and 73-8 guys!!!!!
Peace Out Mashizzle

....Looks like I chose the wrong day to quit smoking....