ASA Performance Plus

[socrates1]

If you look at the performance bonus plan, you will see that the non-union employees get their bonus if ASA meets three factors. The financial goals, Completion Factor, and AO14. We all know they will meet the financial goals, but the company is way behind on the other two. When you read BL's weekly statements, he is only concerned about CF and AO14. He doesn't address all the other performance issues. For example, as of Aug 24th ASA has 24,643 bag claims. That is over 1000 a day for the month of Aug. Let's say it cost $40.00 to hire a cab and deliver the late bag to the pax, that's $40,000.00 per day in lost bags. However, this isn't addressed in his weekly memos.

If we will just do our jobs, per the POH, SP's, and contract, we can sit back and let the system fail. You do not have to try and screw the company. It will happen by itself.

ASA didn't meet the performance goals for July. This is when BL posted his memo about letting the company fall to pieces. I doubt they will meet them in August. If they keep it up, they won't meet them for September, and therefore, they won't get their 3Q performance bonus.

I wish everyone received the bonus, including the three union groups that have been excluded. I feel the outstaions deserve the bonus because they bust their A$$ES to pick up for the slack in ATL. But I will not go out of my way to meet the company goals. I say let the system fail, and keep the big bonuses out of the GO

I'm not suggesting an illegal job action. Simply do what the company has hired you to do, and nothing else. I'm tired of captains handing me the plane and saying "XXXX is broke, but I didn't want to write it up." Or hearing on ops CR2's asking for a huffer and air cart because the APU or Pack is deferred in the middle of the summer. The FAA has mandated that almost everything on these planes be in working order. If they aren't, the company must fix it. You won't be requesting items to be fixed just because you want to. The Fed's require it.

Let's all do our jobs, every aspect of our jobs, and nothing else.

Cheers

ATLCR2CA

 

[atrdriver]

ASA is obviously broken, but blaming ALL the bag claims on our ramp is not accurate. DAL still handles all of our bags on all connections to and from mainline. I have not departed ATL in the past 2 months when a DAL driver hasn't pulled up after the cargo door is closed and wanted to put a few more bags on. Yes we certainly have some responsibility for our terrible bag handling, but it certainly doesn't ALL fall on us.

 

[atlcrashpad]

Socrate1,

Great post. Fly the Book and only do your job. The rest will catch up. Uh, maybe...

 

[Tomct]

Actually Socrates, I believe that it costs ASA or Delta about 70-90 dollars per lost bag to be delivered! Yeah, and WE NEED A PAYCUT!

 

[Medeco]

I agree to a point

The only problem with us as an entire company not meeting the goals set forth, is that our 15yr contract can be thrown out the window by delta.

Granted, it would take a huge undertaking from anothr carrier to come in and replace ASA overnight. I could not happen this way of course.

But, I'd like to know at what point or how many quarters does it take of ASA not meeting the goals for DAL to throw down the hammer.

BL will be booted long before this is an actual threat from DAL.

You see, in my opinion BL and company are running the company entirely by the numbers. If he, as president had some people skills, and was actively showing his face at the airport during these tougher months, he could actually bring people together and motivate them to go above and beyond. The result would be numbers that meet or beat our goals.

But, this is ASA and nothing will change until new blood from outside the company with true leadership skills is hired into the lead position.

Medeco

 

[79%N1]

Bottom line.......LiarBrecque IS NOT A LEADER!!! Bethune, Kelleher, Neelman are leaders. BL and his predecessors are NOT leaders. They are bean counters. They look at goals and targets, then look at numbers on reports. They 'manage" by reports and meeteings, then put out goals they want departments to meet, without any direction on how to meet them. How is this effective leadership? Well, I answered my own question.

 

[Old Crow]

My favorite quote from Ron on Ramp 3 late one night was, "Guy's, relax... You work for ASA and this is how they do business."
The quote was prompted by the 25 RJ's awaiting parking and clogging up the ramp.
So true is it that we get paid to simply take off and land. It is unfortunate that all the other factors that make a company great are simply a requirement from Delta. Baggage handling? Customer Service? On time operation? Company Moral and Pride? Those are just a meaningless expenses to our leaders.

ASA is ASA is ASA...

 

[79%N1]

Which is rapidly becoming 'America's sh1ttiest Airline'!

 

[~~~^~~~]

Delta awards flying to the lowest bidder. They get what they pay for.

Delta's consultants tell them there is money to be saved by having a Request for Proposal aimed squarely at forcing the Comair employees to cave in on wages. Many Comair pilots quit, others get extended, distracted by the prospect of losing their jobs and perhaps even make mistakes that will cost Delta and their underwriters upwards of $400,000,000.00.

Delta is far from alone. Northwest tells their employees to look in others' garbage to make ends meet on their new pay. Parts of the airline industry have probably pushed employees and wages about as far as can be done and as a result the system is failing at its weakest link - the employee who needs peace of mind, rest and a reasonable goal to work towards.

We should not kid ourselves about ASA failing due to a poor work ethic. If you look around, ASA has been doing more with less for a long, long, time and the employees make up for much of the deficiencies in resources. Often ASA is tasked with performing a schedule that is "realistic" only to a Harvard MBA who has hardly every handled his own bag, much less the bags of over a million passengers a month.

ASA has come a long way in improving its systems, but there is a long way to go. At each step of the way we have to deal with budgets that are too small to accomplish the mission. Things have gotten better over the last couple of weeks and I hope the improvement continues.

 

[Bizjet]

Bottom line.......LiarBrecque IS NOT A LEADER!!! Bethune, Kelleher, Neelman are leaders. BL and his predecessors are NOT leaders. They are bean counters. They look at goals and targets, then look at numbers on reports. They 'manage" by reports and meeteings, then put out goals they want departments to meet, without any direction on how to meet them. How is this effective leadership? Well, I answered my own question.

You are right. BL is the ultimate bean counter. He says one bean to be split by all the employees and one bean for me.....

 

[John Pennekamp]

Amen, fins. The regional industry has been overdue for a wreck for a long time. Knowing some of the incidents that have taken place at our own airline, I'd say luck has been the biggest factor.

Sooner or later, the airlines better realize the consequences of pilot pushing. They are saving a million to spend 400 million.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Scott Hall did his weekly visit while I was in recurrent. A captain next to me was scribbling down some notes. Scott was droning on and on about how new TPS reports were going to save the ramp.

The captain raised his hand and said:

"I figure that an RJ running both engines and APU burns about XXX pounds per hour. Now, Delta pays $x.xx per gallon for fuel today, thats xxx gallons. Plus crew costs of about $xxx.xx per hour. So if you have an RJ waiting for parking that costs ASA $xxxx.xx per hour NOT INCLUDING missing pax connections, meal vouchers bag deals etc. etc. etc. Multiply that times the 10 RJ's parked out there and you have some very scary costs out there. Why don't you pay these rampers $15.00/hour, have some accountability, and get this thing done? You are stepping over dollars to save nickels!! And by the way we are NOT taking a pay cut in this environment!"

Scott turned red faced and said "WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS?"

CAPTAIN:"FROM MY HEAD"

SCOTT: "WELL, I'D NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS BEFORE COMMENTING"

CAPTAIN: "HERE YOU GO"

SCOTT: "NO!! REAL NUMBERS PULLED FROM DAILY OPERATIONS REPORTS"

CAPTAIN: "WELL, DIVIDE EVERYTHING BY HALF AND IT'S STILL SCARY. AND WE ALL KNOW A LOT OF THESE COSTS"

SCOTT: "WELL.......... DELTA PAYS FOR OUR GAS SO IT IS A PASS THROUGH COST ANYWAY"

INCREDIBLE. ASA MGMT is running the show from reports and numbers passed on tho them from computer software.

 

[Tomct]

Scott Hall did his weekly visit while I was in recurrent. A captain next to me was scribbling down some notes. Scott was droning on and on about how new TPS reports were going to save the ramp.

The captain raised his hand and said:

"I figure that an RJ running both engines and APU burns about XXX pounds per hour. Now, Delta pays $x.xx per gallon for fuel today, thats xxx gallons. Plus crew costs of about $xxx.xx per hour. So if you have an RJ waiting for parking that costs ASA $xxxx.xx per hour NOT INCLUDING missing pax connections, meal vouchers bag deals etc. etc. etc. Multiply that times the 10 RJ's parked out there and you have some very scary costs out there. Why don't you pay these rampers $15.00/hour, have some accountability, and get this thing done? You are stepping over dollars to save nickels!! And by the way we are NOT taking a pay cut in this environment!"

Scott turned red faced and said "WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE NUMBERS?"

CAPTAIN:"FROM MY HEAD"

SCOTT: "WELL, I'D NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS BEFORE COMMENTING"

CAPTAIN: "HERE YOU GO"

SCOTT: "NO!! REAL NUMBERS PULLED FROM DAILY OPERATIONS REPORTS"

CAPTAIN: "WELL, DIVIDE EVERYTHING BY HALF AND IT'S STILL SCARY. AND WE ALL KNOW A LOT OF THESE COSTS"

SCOTT: "WELL.......... DELTA PAYS FOR OUR GAS SO IT IS A PASS THROUGH COST ANYWAY"

INCREDIBLE. ASA MGMT is running the show from reports and numbers passed on tho them from computer software.

:angryfireWish that he would be in my recurrent in SLC~! I would LOVE to have some "Alone Time" with him to take him out back and kick the crap out of him. What a POS, he is such an IDIOT!!! I have ZERO respect for him and JA is RAPIDLY approaching his status due to the fact that he KNOWS what is going on over here.....and YET, he does NOTHING!!

 

[ReportCanoa]

Okay, settle down. A chief pilot has a different boss to answer to- he's mere puppet in the airline play. Don't get so riled up with the rhetoric you hear. It's all spin, and you can't run a successful airline like that, but face it- ASA isn't a real airline, is it.

 

[asayankee]

It's probably the same kind of software that tells our crackpot dispatchers that we can make it FL330 in the 200 and cruise at .74 when it's ISA + 17.

 

[ASARJMan]

Scott Hall did his weekly visit while I was in recurrent. A captain next to me was scribbling down some notes. Scott was droning on and on about how new TPS reports were going to save the ramp..

SH is a moron and a big wuss. When the Neg Comm is in the crew lounge, he nor CT will come out of the CP's office and confront them in front of line pilots. That there tells you they're not to be trusted and are full of sheeeet!

VOTED IN FAVOR!

 

[John Pennekamp]

It's probably the same kind of software that tells our crackpot dispatchers that we can make it FL330 in the 200 and cruise at .74 when it's ISA + 17.

Think that's bad? I was jumpseating on a full ATR to Florida on a 95 degree day not long ago, and the idiots filed them to FL220. Yeah, right. I think they leveled off at 16,000 after climbing <500fpm.

 

[John Pennekamp]

SH is a moron and a big wuss. When the Neg Comm is in the crew lounge, he nor CT will come out of the CP's office and confront them in front of line pilots. That there tells you they're not to be trusted and are full of sheeeet!

VOTED IN FAVOR!

True, but it's pretty entertaining then the CNC or reps bait them out, then hand them their a$$es in front of everybody by pointing out the inconsistency in their statements.