ASA PBS mock bid

[ASA Captain]

Honestly, it's more like "after it was over, she had a penis"

speaking from experience, are you???

 

[Kerveball]

Here's an idea, sit down with a PBS trainer that YOUR UNION DUES ARE PAYING FOR, and actually learn the proper way to use the system. It only takes about an hour to get an in depth understanding. They are available from 8am-10pm EVERY DAY of the week.

Or you can be one of the whiners and complainers, think you have the system all figured out on your own, submit a messed up bid, then complain you got "screwed" when actually the system gave you exactly what you bid for.

Your choice.....

 

[JettBoii]

It will be turned on after the turn of the year.

 

[buscap]

I've been told all this is mostly the result of Flightline not having the software in compliance with the LOA.

There is no way pilots are gonna dik with this thing enough to become competent and confident with such a far off turn on date. Money spent on trainers over the next four months is money wasted, unless it's the company's money, in which case I am cool with it.

But of course now we have to read/listen to four more months of people whining about how much PBS sucks, even though they have no idea what they are talking about. I'm not saying it doesn't suck, because I don't know what I'm talking about either.

I just want to turn the darn thing on and get those first two months of vertical learning curve out of the way and move the fak on.

 

[777forever]

Here's an idea, sit down with a PBS trainer that YOUR UNION DUES ARE PAYING FOR, and actually learn the proper way to use the system. It only takes about an hour to get an in depth understanding. They are available from 8am-10pm EVERY DAY of the week.

Or you can be one of the whiners and complainers, think you have the system all figured out on your own, submit a messed up bid, then complain you got "screwed" when actually the system gave you exactly what you bid for.

Your choice.....

Well said!

ASA Pilot: I don't know about this new PBS thing its so complicated!
Me: Did you go to one of the training classes?
ASA Pilot: No

 

[Tarzan]

Here's an idea, sit down with a PBS trainer that YOUR UNION DUES ARE PAYING FOR, and actually learn the proper way to use the system. It only takes about an hour to get an in depth understanding. They are available from 8am-10pm EVERY DAY of the week.

Or you can be one of the whiners and complainers, think you have the system all figured out on your own, submit a messed up bid, then complain you got "screwed" when actually the system gave you exactly what you bid for.

Your choice.....

No, you are not paying for it, the company is.

 

[buscap]

No, you are not paying for it, the company is.

Well in that case, train-away I say!!!

Train train train train train!!!

 

[crj567]

XJET guys better pay attention:

This system gives far too much control to the company. We are just trying to sugar-coat things to make it look like our agreement doesn't suck so much.

"software problems" my ass! This system sorts trips real pretty, but it still gives the company WAAAAYYY to much license to break one off in some uncomfortable place.

-This agreement needs serious fixes. You can't blame me for getting this crap shoved up our collective pooper-I voted "NO!"

 

[asayankee]

You are paying for it as well in the form of 100 hr months, re-routes, and extensions. If these people are in the crew lounge everyday they are not covering trips... You are!

 

[LazyLightnin']

Well said!

ASA Pilot: I don't know about this new PBS thing its so complicated!
Me: Did you go to one of the training classes?
ASA Pilot: No

Training classes? Who has the time?

By the way..
Do you shod that horse in your avatar?
Kidding, of course.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Well in that case, train-away I say!!!

Train train train train train!!!

Good idea. Cost the company money. That way when we bid for new business we cost more than our competitors, and we won't get the contracts.

 

[Freebrd]

Good idea. Cost the company money. That way when we bid for new business we cost more than our competitors, and we won't get the contracts.

dude the Co be wanting PBS, they can pay for it, and we still will get contracts.

 

[LazyLightnin']

dude the Co be wanting PBS, they can pay for it, and we still will get contracts.

Pay no attention to that doosher.. He's management. We've known this for a while now.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

It's not that difficult to learn. If you're over 45, were on the ATR for like 19 years and didn't make the cut during jet transition, then yes, you may not like it. Otherwise, it's not a bad thing... and plenty sophisticated to do what you want if you PRACTICE. Now where's mah practice bid at?

 

[SPDBRD747400]

-This agreement needs serious fixes. You can't blame me for getting this crap shoved up our collective pooper-I voted "NO!"

Same here!

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Pay no attention to that doosher.. He's management. We've known this for a while now.

Never mind. It isn't worth it.

 

[FL990]

XJET guys better pay attention:

This system gives far too much control to the company. We are just trying to sugar-coat things to make it look like our agreement doesn't suck so much.

"software problems" my ass! This system sorts trips real pretty, but it still gives the company WAAAAYYY to much license to break one off in some uncomfortable place.

-This agreement needs serious fixes. You can't blame me for getting this crap shoved up our collective pooper-I voted "NO!"

Just out of curiosity, do you work in crew planning...'cause, I'm just wondering how gaining the ability to individually choose your pairings and "self construct" your line gives the COMPANY more control building your line than what they currently have, and the only explaination that I can come up with is that you work for crew planning.

Truth is, right now, you have no say in the line construction...you simply scuffle over the lines THEY construct. You are stuck in THEIR schedule pattern (ie. 4 on, 3 off...etc), and have limited ability to customize anything...our PBS system gives you that ability.

Personally, I am ready to get this thing turned on.

 

[mtsupilot]

I just successfully turned another 7 Day Vacation in September into 22 days off. I can't believe you guys voted for PBS. I really can't believe that I am having to listen to all these "YES" votes bitch about the system.

 

[the palm]

I just successfully turned another 7 Day Vacation in September into 22 days off. I can't believe you guys voted for PBS. I really can't believe that I am having to listen to all these "YES" votes bitch about the system.

But at what expense? You got screwed by the MMG formula for dropping those trip conflicts. With PBS you still get 22 days off using only one week of vacation without the pay hit. Sign me up.

 

[FL990]

I just successfully turned another 7 Day Vacation in September into 22 days off. I can't believe you guys voted for PBS. I really can't believe that I am having to listen to all these "YES" votes bitch about the system.

The Min for Sept is 70 hrs of credit to complete a line per the PBS bid package. By taking a virtual credit of 28 hrs for vacation, that leaves you with 42 hrs to pickup. So, if you pickup two 4days that are 21 hrs each, for example (there are 278), or other combinations that add up to 42 hrs credit over 8 days of work, you can have 22 days off in the PBS system as well. Best of all, you can do this by completely customizing your schedule and working on the days YOU WANT to work...(ie 4 on, 2 off, 4 on...this would give you up to 20 days off in a row...you could also combine other pairing lengths...) AND, all this is done WHILE GETTING PAID GAURANTEE!!