ASA or XJT?

[Ted]

I've read the two contracts side by side. And the reserve rules in the XJT CBA are better. I'm sure some senior ASA CA who didn't sit reserve, much less in the FO seat is going to come on here and flame me, as well as tell me that the ASA CBA is better.

Sorry, it's just not.

The ONLY thing that the ASA contract has reserve wise that is better than XJT's is that a long call reserve pilot CAN'T sit airport standby, even if converted to shortcall. At XJT, a long call reserve pilot can.

+1 on that.

I sat in ORD crew lounge all afternoon yesterday. XJT guys pretty much laugh at our contract. They know they have it pretty good, though.

 

[Hypoxik]

I wouldn't say pretty good

We just have what we fought for in Contract 2004.

 

[Ted]

OK, well the consensus was that in terms of the contract, the XJT one is certainly preferable to the ASA one. There are a few good things in ours, though.

 

[www.]

I know the plan is to be merged by the end of the year, but if given a choice of either upcoming class which would you pick?

BAh ha ha ha ha That's a good one.

 

[OCP]

OK, well the consensus was that in terms of the contract, the XJT one is certainly preferable to the ASA one. There are a few good things in ours, though.

In ASA's? What is better? XJT's contract is from 2004.

 

[crj567]

XJET's is much, much better! The language is not crappy, and there are some good aspects I sincerely hope we can preserve.

-Watch out- Our mgmt. is real good at putting a happy face on adverse relations. many around here have been fooled into thinking they are our best pals. Watch what they DO, not what they SAY. You will very soon see how untrustworthy they truly are.

 

[dojetdriver]

In ASA's? What is better? XJT's contract is from 2004.

With exception of the point I made above, sections of hours of service, scheduling (line holders and reserve), hourly compensation, sick time accrual rate, B fund, 401K match, vacation flexibility, add pay, trip trading, bad day-worse day trades, etc.