ASA newhires getting second year pay.

[doh]

here it is straight from the MEC website:

ASA flight operations management today sought relief in the Status Quo of our current contract to give raises to new hire pilots. Management stated they are having difficulty attracting qualified applicants to ASA.
After consultation with the voting members, MEC Chairman Captain David Nieuwenhuis responded to managements request by stating quite simply, “If management wants to attract quality pilots to ASA – settling the remaining open issues of our entire contract will both attract new pilots and stabilize the current pilot groups’ frustrations with management.”

While the MEC is all for working together for win-win situations, we are not interested in carving out special treatment for one segment of the group (new hires) while the remainder of the pilot group have been waiting almost 5 years for pay raises and much needed work rule changes.....

It was relayed to me by a member of the MEC that they were asking to pay second year pay. If that is not the complete TRUTH, take it up with your MEC. I personally have no reason to believe they lied about it.....I also never said I disagreed with it. I don't. It was a simple question and I gave a simple answer.

So there it is, your MEC said YES! Newhires can have the pay raise along with settleing the rest of the contract. Your management is saying NO. Glad you posted that and cleared it up.:beer:

 

[John Pennekamp]

oh Please, the deal the company asked for was to pay the newhires the new negotiated rate in the contract now instead of waiting for the contract to be ratified. This is a few bucks more, but brings us up to par with the other regionals. They did not ask to pay them second year pay.

 

[www.]

oh Please, the deal the company asked for was to pay the newhires the new negotiated rate in the contract now instead of waiting for the contract to be ratified. This is a few bucks more, but brings us up to par with the other regionals. They did not ask to pay them second year pay.

But it had been suggested to SH that if he wanted to attract experienced pilots to ASA he should talk to the union about starting pay for these types of pilots, prev 135/121, at second year rates. Has he sat down and talked about that?

 

[John Pennekamp]

But it had been suggested to SH that if he wanted to attract experienced pilots to ASA he should talk to the union about starting pay for these types of pilots, prev 135/121, at second year rates. Has he sat down and talked about that?

Not that I'm aware of, but I'm no more in the loop than any other line pilot. Ask Newie or Danny.

If SH is really worried about it, then he should get his bosses to settle the contract. Of course, he's too busy taking arrows over his handling of the hotels contraversy, isn't he?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Of course, he's too busy taking arrows over his handling of the hotels contraversy, isn't he?

I got the impression he was more wrapped up in the "wimpy" towelette controversy.

 

[TurboAWD]

Those of you that think ALPA should let the company give new hires 2nd year pay (and throw out perhaps their biggest incentive for the company to negotiate) are really smart. Please run for ALPA office so you can get in and solve all the problems.

Thanks,
Turbo

 

[Redan]

Thank you Brother Turbo! Can I get an Amen?

 

[Tarzan]

One of the big guys from the company talked with us about the contract. There was a wink and nod when he said available labor would drive many contracts in the future. ASA is fortunate to be on the front end of this with the contract. There isn't anymore growth out for regionals and that chunk of meat won't be tossed effectively in the future to keep costs low,

I fear Mesa and Republic will cave in on these issues in the attempt to keep perceived growth going.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

hey ASA guys got a question for you? What are the upgrade mins at ASA? The reason I ask is that I am thinking of leaving my current Regional to go to ASA? I will be giving up about 6 months of seniority at my current airline. However with ASA hiring all of these really low time guys, I am wondering if a lot of them will not be able to upgrade when their number comes up because of their low times. Leaving a shorter upgrade for the guys who might have the flight time mins?? What are your thoughts? Thanks.

 

[Redan]

Probably a very fair supposition.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

What are your thoughts? Thanks.

With a name of RiddleEagle, I'm sure we're all going to be thrilled to have you. Make sure your car has a Florida license plate with the ERAU insignia, an ERAU sticker in the window, and don't forget the ERAU flight bag sticker.

Seriously though...coming to ASA in hopes of chasing a quick upgrade...I say you deserve what you may find here.

I don't recommend this airline until the contract is settled. Too much uncertainty at ASA right now.

 

[Redan]

Yes, certainly bring all those things. However, you mustn't omit the impressive and highly regarded Riddle Ring.

 

[buscap]

hey ASA guys got a question for you? What are the upgrade mins at ASA? The reason I ask is that I am thinking of leaving my current Regional to go to ASA? I will be giving up about 6 months of seniority at my current airline. However with ASA hiring all of these really low time guys, I am wondering if a lot of them will not be able to upgrade when their number comes up because of their low times. Leaving a shorter upgrade for the guys who might have the flight time mins?? What are your thoughts? Thanks.

I would recommend Skywest. Avoid the fire.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Actually Im already a qualified CRJ f.o.

For what airline?
PBR

 

[Puck Mugger]

With a name of RiddleEagle, I'm sure we're all going to be thrilled to have you. Make sure your car has a Florida license plate with the ERAU insignia, an ERAU sticker in the window, and don't forget the ERAU flight bag sticker.

Word in the FA lounge is that the stews love having all this new Riddle meat on the overnights. The like Riddle pilots the best.

 

[Tomct]

I'm flying with a new hire and he is making the same 19.02 an hour that we all made!!!!!!

 

[John Pennekamp]

Yes, certainly bring all those things. However, you mustn't omit the impressive and highly regarded Riddle Ring.

And the flight team jacket. Most effective when worn with the big 80s Aviator sunglasses. In a bar. Chicks dig that. Really.

 

[ASADriver]

Who cares about newhire pay. They know the pay when they sign up for this gig. If they would say no, the pay would go up. Very simple.

 

[GearUpLightsIn]

There are just so very many ways for us to say this to management: Never; not in a million years; absolutely not; no way, Jose; no chance, Lance; niet; negatory; mm-mm; nuh-uh; oh-oh; and of course my own personal favorite of all time, man falling off of a cliff -- "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"

Thank you Dr. Cox!

 

[GearUpLightsIn]

Word in the FA lounge is that the stews love having all this new Riddle meat on the overnights. The like Riddle pilots the best.

Is it because all these young Riddle kids remind them so much of their grandsons back home?