Asa naps

[ke4akj1976]

Is it still possible to drop all of your naps and then pickup two four days to cover the original block? Seems like I have heard that this is no longer allowed.

 

[WWEfan]

No it's not possible because every day is a red arrow day and the company will deny your swap requests. But in theory you are correct.

 

[Medeco]

They closed that loop, in the PBS agreement.

 

[JoeMerchant]

They closed that loop, in the PBS agreement.

How so?

 

[dojetdriver]

No it's not possible because every day is a red arrow day and the company will deny your swap requests. But in theory you are correct.

So if it's a "red arrow day", or set of "red arrow days", does that prevent trading even if the trip/trips are on the SAME days at ASA?

 

[atlcrashpad]

Main I dun thought dem Red Aero's was a BBQ or a Town meetin'.....
I dun learned sumpin' new err'day......

 

[Baronman]

So if it's a "red arrow day", or set of "red arrow days", does that prevent trading even if the trip/trips are on the SAME days at ASA?

I'm curious about this as well....

Scenario-- It's a red arrow day and I have a day trip, can I get on the computer and trade it for another day trip (irregardless of start time).

Scenario- Let's say I'd like to trade my day trip (Monday) for another day trip (Tuesday). If there are more reserves available on Monday (better coverage), will they let me trade into a day with worse coverage....(Red arrow day as well).

 

[OCP]

I'm curious about this as well....

Scenario-- It's a red arrow day and I have a day trip, can I get on the computer and trade it for another day trip (irregardless of start time).

Scenario- Let's say I'd like to trade my day trip (Monday) for another day trip (Tuesday). If there are more reserves available on Monday (better coverage), will they let me trade into a day with worse coverage....(Red arrow day as well).

If they are both "red arrow" days then the system says there is low coverage and won't do it. Doesn't matter if it makes sense.

 

[dojetdriver]

If they are both "red arrow" days then the system says there is low coverage and won't do it. Doesn't matter if it makes sense.

I look forward to working with the ASA guys. Except for the trolls that have invaded our message board, they all seem like a bunch of good guys. I'll even get to see some old friend from my previous employer that went to ASA when we all got furloughed, so that'll be cool.

But the more I hear/read about how ASA does things from a scheduling point of view, and those that think we at XJT should just suck it up and inherit the ASA way of doing things, the MORE I dread the merger.

I hope that the JNC can get rid of the crap that exists, on BOTH sides of the house.

 

[Baronman]

If they are both "red arrow" days then the system says there is low coverage and won't do it. Doesn't matter if it makes sense.

So basically you have gridlock on red arrow days? And yes, we can always trade into a day with worse reserve coverage. Many times that is the best way to arrange which days you work. Hopefully we won't get stuck with this red arrow business.

 

[OCP]

So basically you have gridlock on red arrow days? And yes, we can always trade into a day with worse reserve coverage. Many times that is the best way to arrange which days you work. Hopefully we won't get stuck with this red arrow business.

Yes that is the case. The WHOLE thing is much worse than that really. And this is the company and how they "look" at our contract... example.

There is NO SUCH THING as a "red arrow day" ANYWHERE in our contract. We negotiated a "restricted day" of which there are only supposed to be a max of 4 per month. So what is a "restricted day"? Well you and I as pilots would call that a day that restricts us trading our trips or the like. I honestly don't know what the company thinks it is. Then "red arrow" days started showing up, which we all thought, well these are "restricted" days and they are obviously violating the contract because almost the entire month is "red arrow" days.
But the company said no... Those are just "red arrow" days, not "restricted" days. So for the 4 years we have had this contract our "union" filed a grievance that we have just been told will be heard in (I think) October of this year.

 

[601Pilot]

Is it still possible to drop all of your naps and then pickup two four days to cover the original block? Seems like I have heard that this is no longer allowed.

If you do it in steps, you can still do it. You can't drop all of your naps since they signed the PBS LOA; they snuck in a minimum credit of 45 hours per month. (I hope this gets removed in the JCBA!) So, as long as you stay above 45 hours during the swaps, you can still do.

 

[johnpeace]

But the more I hear/read about how ASA does things from a scheduling point of view, and those that think we at XJT should just suck it up and inherit the ASA way of doing things, the MORE I dread the merger.

I hope that the JNC can get rid of the crap that exists, on BOTH sides of the house.

I'm excited about the power XJet is bringing to force a culture change in our crew utilization dept., no 'suck it up' here. Scheduling is severely broken here, hoping you guys are the impetus to fix it.

 

[Pasturepilot]

Scheduling is severely broken here, hoping you guys are the impetus to fix it.

Three calls to scheduling yesterday. Total time spent ON HOLD waiting for scheduling to answer the phone: 19 minutes, 31 seconds. I'd fire anyone providing that kind of service.

Yeah, Johnpeace, I'd say you're about right. It was a sunny day in ATL. I don't think DTW or IAD were much worse.

 

[johnpeace]

I refuse to wait on hold more than 3 min.

 

[Data]

I refuse to wait on hold more than 3 min.

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