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rausda27

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Hey trying to work out my schedule for May, need to work around my wifes schedule for our kid. Anyone currently on Nap reserve at ASA, how is scheduling treating you. Are you getting called often and are they keeping you on Naps or are they calling you for daylines the night before?

I want to bid nap reserve but I heard that they are using the nap reserve guys for day lines.
 
How do you get "Nap Reserve?" Last time I bid it, they gave me reserve at 05:-0. Then they would call at 11:-0, put me to rest and back on reserve at 19:-0 until 23:-0. Talk about a screw job. Those ba$tards figured out how to double dip on reserve. There is nothing in our contract that prohibits this sort of crap. No, "nap reserve" isn't a panacea unless your an FO and they are so fat on FO's that they don't care.

And... I've seen several FO's who were on reserve who were scheduled for CDO without the 8 in 24 look back. Reserve is still a battle at ASA and will be until we get contract langauge to restrain the schedulers more satanic impulses.
 
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rausda27 said:
Hey trying to work out my schedule for May, need to work around my wifes schedule for our kid. Anyone currently on Nap reserve at ASA, how is scheduling treating you. Are you getting called often and are they keeping you on Naps or are they calling you for daylines the night before?

I want to bid nap reserve but I heard that they are using the nap reserve guys for day lines.

Calls every day, morning, noon and night. 4 day trips, naps, day lines. It's terrible...
 
Don't know if I want to jinx myself but after this last assignment I guess it doesn't matter.

I have been bidding capt 50 seat nap reserve for 6 mnths or so(by faxing in a request sheet) and up until this month it has been ok for me. Flew 7 naps for 15 hrs in Feb., 11 naps for 26 hrs in Mar. But they have become short again this month and ran out of day reserve guys and had extra nap reserves so I am on a 20 hr 3 day right now sitting in stinking MTY. So yes they are using nap guys for day trips now and am guessing nap reserve won't be so nice any more.

I guess I will see next month how it goes.
 
What are you doing on the Computer? Back away from that thing, go straight to Nueva Luna, start with the margaritas they serve in a bucket and move up to tequila. In two hours they will have a band with a girl who looks and sounds just like Shakira - Whenever, where ever, do di do. You never know, you might end up getting a volkswagen ride to the top of one of those grand Haciendas in the hills. Some of them have pools and hot tubs - good times!

Of course, this is only if you have a late duty in and know how to work with the Mexican Police. For some reason they don't care much for gringos getting caught out at 04 : 30 with several chica's.
 
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rausda27 said:
Hey trying to work out my schedule for May, need to work around my wifes schedule for our kid. Anyone currently on Nap reserve at ASA, how is scheduling treating you. Are you getting called often and are they keeping you on Naps or are they calling you for daylines the night before?

I want to bid nap reserve but I heard that they are using the nap reserve guys for day lines.

Welcome to America's Sh!tt!est Airline. Give it up Dan, your life is over!
 
jeroom said:
Can someone explain what the hell is a nap reserve??

You bid reserve and you an "request" certain reserve times. Nap reserve is for the continuous duty overnights and are from 6PM - Midnight or 7PM to Midnight.
 
If you're on nap reserve at ASA make sure you pack for at least a 4 day trip.

If they call you for a nap and once you are dutied in, they CANNOT change it to anything that doesnt end in your domicle the same duty period.
 
The guys with nap reserve in SLC ski 5 days/wk...not that bad.
 
bailout said:
If you're on nap reserve at ASA make sure you pack for at least a 4 day trip.

If they call you for a nap and once you are dutied in, they CANNOT change it to anything that doesnt end in your domicle the same duty period.

They can change it into a non-nap (have you do a later flight out the next day where there are multiple flights/crews), and then do whatever they want. Does that make any sense? Of course not, but think about who we're talking about.

-Blucher:bomb:
 
rausda27 said:
Hey trying to work out my schedule for May, need to work around my wifes schedule for our kid. Anyone currently on Nap reserve at ASA, how is scheduling treating you. Are you getting called often and are they keeping you on Naps or are they calling you for daylines the night before?

I want to bid nap reserve but I heard that they are using the nap reserve guys for day lines.


If you cant work it out, I hear there will be some xjt pilots available for babysitting detail maybe in the near future.
 
Read #3. Once you duty in, you are on a CDO. They cannot change it. Period. They might tell you they can, but they cannot.





2. Continuous Duty Overnights (CDO’s)

a. On a CDO, a pilot may be scheduled or rescheduled to remain on duty for up to fifteen hours and fifteen minutes (15:15), including deadheading, subject to the following:
(1) A pilot may be scheduled or rescheduled to depart his domicile no more than two (2) times, and both departures shall precede the break in paragraph B.2.a.(2), below;
(2) There is at least a five (5) hour scheduled or rescheduled break, from block in to block out, between two of the legs;
(3) The duty period is scheduled or rescheduled to end at the pilot’s domicile;
(4) A pilot will not be scheduled or rescheduled for more than five (5) take-offs.
 
Bailout,

I stand corrected. I wasn't focusing on the already being dutied-in part of it. What I've seen happening a lot lately is calling during a nap reserve window and then giving a non-nap assignment. Which I find really special. In fact, I was part of a crew the other day with one pilot on nap reserve and the other on 10 am reserve, WTFO? Short pilots? Then hire some more!!!

-Blucher:puke:
 
Yes, they can do that because there is no such thing as "nap reserve". People tend to call it that, but it is no different than any other reserve period except for the time of day you can be called. What i was referring to above, was scheduling has many times called someone in for a nap, and when they get to the airport, they would call, or have a message that they are now going a 3 day,(or whatever). That is what they cant do, although alot of people didnt know that and left on a 3-4 day with no clothes.
 
We call it nap reserve cause usually that is what you fly with 8 or 9 pm duty ins. But not always.

I did go to Nueva Luna but earlier cause I had the 7 am duty in. 2 for 1 happy hour though. No chicas, or band then.
 

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