ASA Nap Reduction....

crj567

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Another ominous e-mail from Scott.... Looks like they are cutting back on naps. This can only mean one thing, of course-MORE CRAPPY 4-DAYS!!!!!!!

-ARRRRGGHHHH!!!!
-Is there ever gonna be any good news again?
 

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Maybe you guys can take the SAT nap we have.
 

Salukipilot4590

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There's such a thing as a company-offered nap?

Is nap an acronym?
 

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Nap, stand-up, high-speed, CDO, turnaround, Mesa camping trip, etc.
 

Salukipilot4590

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AH! CDO and stuff...gotcha...


That's bogus!
 

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Should also be known, as they used to be.

Illegal overnight.

I'm sure some will gripe, but his explanation was logical, and we must save and survive.

Medeco
 

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Naps should be illegal anyways.
Lots of guys like naps. I don't bid anything else. Once you get used to the sleep pattern, there's nothing dangerous about them at all.
 

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Lots of guys like naps. I don't bid anything else. Once you get used to the sleep pattern, there's nothing dangerous about them at all.
If you're one of the people who CAN adjust to them. Some people simply can't.
 

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If you're one of the people who CAN adjust to them. Some people simply can't.
That's true about any schedule, though. No matter what I try, I just can't adjust to AM multi-day trips. I can never get to sleep until at least midnight, so I'm tired all day when I have 5am shows on a 4-day. I'm much more alert on stand-ups when I can take afternoon naps and only need 3 or 4 hours of sleep at the hotel.
 

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That's true about any schedule, though. No matter what I try, I just can't adjust to AM multi-day trips. I can never get to sleep until at least midnight, so I'm tired all day when I have 5am shows on a 4-day. I'm much more alert on stand-ups when I can take afternoon naps and only need 3 or 4 hours of sleep at the hotel.
You're lucky that you can adapt so well to bullsh**.

Naps/CDOs are the company's way to outsmart the government rest regulations. Yes the government mandates 8 hours min of rest, but they didn't say when it has to be.
 
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CDOs are great when you live in domicile, but they take away a lot of city pairs that could be used to build commutable trips.

definitely a double-edged sword.

I didn't mind flying the occasional CDO, but I have no idea how guys were doing them 3 days a week, 4 weeks a month, for YEARS just for commutability like folks at AWAC were doing.
 

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Lots of guys like naps. I don't bid anything else. Once you get used to the sleep pattern, there's nothing dangerous about them at all.
Hmmmm, if you of all folks is saying this, I rest my case. They should be both illegal and for the devil.
 

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More staged overnights = MORE 4 day trips!

Watch and see.
 

crj567

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More staged overnights = MORE 4 day trips!

Watch and see.
4-Day trips are far worse than naps..... The fact that Scott is dumb enough to think they are "more productive" shows what a bonehead we have in charge...

Don't get all in face about "productivity" when we have had 400 or so pilots on reserve!!!! Plus look at all the extra hotel expenses and per diem assoc. with 4-days!

-Scott is a special type of fool!
 

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I personally like 4 day trips more than 3 day trips because the flying is more spread out. 3 days trips, or at least the ones I've been on, tend to have too many legs(4-6) in one day and short overnights.
 
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