ASA March finals

[Nevets]

And your relative seniority is much higher than mine. Ask the bottom 150 of your pilots how much time they get off and how much they credit. And the biggest thing is I also got the preferences in the trips that I wanted. Not just what was left over. Oh yeah and I improved on it further by swapping for a higher value trip that actually flies less legs from open time.

Anybody at XJT who whose seniority would give them 4 four days could have done what you did. Again, our system gives you the opportunity to change your trips if you didn't originally get exactly what you wanted, or if there is something better (which there is almost always is as in your example of less legs and more pay), or increase days off, or pick up a trip during a vacation month with add pay. This is all flexibility our system has that yours doesn't. The fact that we have that flexibility on top of all these new things you guys got is not enough for me personally to want your PBS.

Nevets! Your system would work NO BETTER here! They would have the same low blocked pairings, and the only stuff left in open time is worse low block pairings. The only trips dropped back into open time for your LIW's would be MORE LOW BLOCKED PAIRINGS! (That nobody would want to or could swap for.) Then, every day would be red arrow, so even if you found one sweet trip to swap for YOU CANNOT!

This is coming to XJT when this whole mess is merged whether you switch to PBS or not! They will make life hell on line bidding, out of spite if needed. Even if they keep exactly your contract language, they will render it useless with their tricks and nonsense! Watch what you are fighting so hard to keep. You just might get it!

I understand your point. The small difference would be that in out system, because of training, vacation, FAR, contractual, and transition conflicts, there are many 1,2,and 3 day pairings created that weren't part of the original pairing construction. The stuff left in open time in the ILIW isn't not the bad pairings anyways. And even if everyday is a red arrow day (we have our own version of that), we can still make bdwd trades for something better, or to move days off, and to even increase days off! Even our reserves can do that with their reserve days!

The threat of them making life hell with line bidding just to spite us makes me less agreeable to give them PBS. You would think that they would be doing that already to soften us up.

 

[asa rat]

As long as we're wishing for what we want...

- 12/13 min days off each month
- 200% premium for extensions
- 10 hrs min rest with 12 hrs after release in domicile
- RRR no more than 2x a month and never on consecutive days, 6hr credit for RRR
- Association has to approve pairing construction...require a mutually agreeable pairing construction solution
- 4 hrs pay for union duty...down from 6
- Union reps must fly each seat once a year, including a month of reserve
- Term limits for reps
- Much greater accountability/transparency of reps/MEC to pilot group
- No min day pay dock for fatigue calls
- 15 min credit on each end of a trip...pay for the bus ride to/from the parking lot. Duty time begins 15 min prior to duty in time to account for bus ride. (riding that bus on my own time really pisses me off)
- 14 hrs = long overnight for hotel requirements
- $2/hr per diem (things are more expensive on the road than they were in 2007)
- If dual qual, it's only for pilots who elect to participate.
- Pref bid for vacancy bid...ability to set up conditions (if it'll put me in the top half of the new seniority, bid x seat...if not, bid y seat)
- no more call to be released after a reserve assignment
- no more hats!

Plus -
0.25 flight pay for every aircraft swap.
0.25 flight pay for every concourse change.

 

[crj567]

Plus -
0.25 flight pay for every aircraft swap.
0.25 flight pay for every concourse change.

I would be FREAKING RICH!!!

(Seriously-these swaps are really getting nuts lately!) (Last month, I would have made at least 9 hours extra!)

 

[Flyguy1226]

Just pay me by DUTY hour!!