ASA LOST 216,000 bags in 2005!!!

[enuffalready]

xxxxx

 

[General Lee]

Are you the guy that says "Can't Handle Her" as your callsign to ATC?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Comin-In-Hot]

Also, all the $$$ spent on CAT II training, sims, etc. In my short 5 years here I have only diverted once for an approach that could only be attempted with CAT II or III.

THe big advantage to the CAT II is dispatchability.

That $9m would be a nice sum to recover, too bad it won't happen with the quality of personel on the ATL ramp.:smash:

 

[WhatRUSmokinGL?]

I see these signs posted all over ops about how we boarded 12,000,000 last year. Well, according to the DOT we lost 18 bags per 1000. And I believe we pay close to $40 Per bag to have them delivered to the door? Granted, I just got in from a nap but isn’t that close to $9,000,000 in 2005? If so, and Brian wants a zero net contract, why doesn’t he start with something that has been going on LONG before I got here 5 years ago?

Also, all the $$$ spent on CAT II training, sims, etc. In my short 5 years here I have only diverted once for an approach that could only be attempted with CAT II or III.

Anyone got a calculator?

The biggest problem with the bag issue is that ASA is tied to DAL's system. I thought that most of the DCI's had the same problem because of the inefficient teetering giant...... Of course didn't BL fix the ramp issue years ago? Wasn't that how he made his name?

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

I checked my garage, I've only got 134,721 of them.

 

[General Lee]

The biggest problem with the bag issue is that ASA is tied to DAL's system. I thought that most of the DCI's had the same problem because of the inefficient teetering giant...... Of course didn't BL fix the ramp issue years ago? Wasn't that how he made his name?

How about the RJs or ATRs not being able to take a full load of bags during bad weather? I talked to a PFN agent and he said the local bag guy makes over $100,000 a year to deliver late bags to pax. Is that Delta's fault? What are you smoking? The chronic, obviously.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

I have to jump in here a bit. I cannot count the number of times when a Delta tug pulls up after we have either started to push or taxi (ATR days) and signal how many bags he has. If I have already turned in the paper work, closed the door, pushed and started, sorry, no more bags. They should have been already onboard. Had one of the Delta actally pull in front of me as I taxied out of 28 with both running. As I shook my head when he signaled 8 bags he gave the dual-handed single finger salute, mouthed "motherfcker" to me and continued to block us for almost a minute as he played with his little computer on the tug.

Sorry General, I have to point a finger here, and it is not at us. I agree some is our fault, but not all.

 

[General Lee]

I have to jump in here a bit. I cannot count the number of times when a Delta tug pulls up after we have either started to push or taxi (ATR days) and signal how many bags he has. If I have already turned in the paper work, closed the door, pushed and started, sorry, no more bags. They should have been already onboard. Had one of the Delta actally pull in front of me as I taxied out of 28 with both running. As I shook my head when he signaled 8 bags he gave the dual-handed single finger salute, mouthed "motherfcker" to me and continued to block us for almost a minute as he played with his little computer on the tug.

Sorry General, I have to point a finger here, and it is not at us. I agree some is our fault, but not all.

Hey, I never said it was all your fault. We have problems getting bags from your side too, when your RJs have to sit in the ramp for 30 minutes waiting for a parking spot. Those pax may make it to my 767, but the bags may not. It happens on both sides. I have to admit that I have never seen a bag guy drive his tug in front of my 767. That is a funny story though about the guy mouthing "MF" to you. I would have started laughing and pointing at him.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[HoserASA]

Had one of the Delta actally pull in front of me as I taxied out of 28 with both running. As I shook my head when he signaled 8 bags he gave the dual-handed single finger salute, mouthed "motherfcker" to me and continued to block us for almost a minute as he played with his little computer on the tug.


Welllll you ever here of reverse? That might get him outa your way! Nah, just, uh (clearing throat) kidding, that wouldn't be professional or safe. But, you could have noted his tug number, wrote it up, and turned it in. Just a thought....

Hoser

 

[regionaltard]

.........$40 Per bag to have them delivered to the door? Granted, I just got in from a nap but isn’t that close to $9,000,000 in 2005? If so, and Brian wants a zero net contract, why doesn’t he start with something that has been going on LONG before I got here 5 years ago?

Uh, because he probably doesn't have a clue. That would come under the heading of "managing." That's hard. Extortion is much easier.

 

[~~~^~~~]

The world busiest airport, two airlines that don't really like eachother much, everything transported above ground on airside and pay rates that make Wendy's look like a promotion - I don't see this getting fixed any time soon. It is a tough nut to crack.

The best thing they could do is try to increse the turn times that pax book themselves on. I often have passengers with less than 60 mintues in between flights and it sure doesn't take much of a delay to dork up that plan. Further, why does the FAA let airlines schedule 130 arrivals into an airport that can only take 110, or so, when the weather is purrrfect? What happened to "Operation Clockwork?"

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Welllll you ever here of reverse? That might get him outa your way! Nah, just, uh (clearing throat) kidding, that wouldn't be professional or safe. But, you could have noted his tug number, wrote it up, and turned it in. Just a thought....

Hoser[/quote]

LOL, saw me, did ya? FO just happen to drop his pencil about then, told him I was clearing some FOD.

 

[DrProc]

I have to jump in here a bit. I cannot count the number of times when a Delta tug pulls up after we have either started to push or taxi (ATR days) and signal how many bags he has. If I have already turned in the paper work, closed the door, pushed and started, sorry, no more bags. They should have been already onboard. Had one of the Delta actally pull in front of me as I taxied out of 28 with both running. As I shook my head when he signaled 8 bags he gave the dual-handed single finger salute, mouthed "motherfcker" to me and continued to block us for almost a minute as he played with his little computer on the tug.

Sorry General, I have to point a finger here, and it is not at us. I agree some is our fault, but not all.

The truth of the matter is, the only people to get screwed with missing bags are the pax. Sure numbers are reported, but does that really hurt the airline, no. Just remember those pax are the reason the airlines are in business, and the reason you have a job.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

The truth of the matter is, the only people to get screwed with missing bags are the pax. Sure numbers are reported, but does that really hurt the airline, no. Just remember those pax are the reason the airlines are in business, and the reason you have a job.

I understand that completely. What would you have me do? I have gone WAY out of my way to accomodate pax baggage many times. Pulling in front of me as I am taxiing out is a a good way to get killed.

 

[RCA]

After reading your post Gen Lee. I found a couple more spots you could type "my 767" PM me for suggestions.

 

[General Lee]

After reading your post Gen Lee. I found a couple more spots you could type "my 767" PM me for suggestions.

That's what I currently fly. I could have said "my huge widebody" or "light twin compared to a 777." I don't need your suggestions, thanks.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[atlcrashpad]

F@ck the PAX and their bags... Remember at ASA, We're not Happy til You're not Happy... BOUYYYYY....

 

[atlcrashpad]

The above is a rant only. I feel for the Pax and their bags, late flights and rude airline staff. The MGT only cares about the bottom line... MONEY. Once you've paid, you're done........ Maybe BL will resolve the ramp issue, maybe not. I've waited in excess of an hour for a gate. Total BS. Unacceptable if I were paying.

 

[atlcrashpad]

Hey General,

I thought you went to the Mad Dog's left seat. Maybe I bez confused.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

ASA LOST 216,000 bags in 2005!!!

216,000????

Does this include the number of crew bags lost too?

 

[scarlet]

GL is that one of the 767s they are parking--guess he will not be pulling in front of that one anymore...or maybe all the 777s dl was getting years ago,oh but no we have to have 300.00/hr.. Good solution by DL--Not to get anymore.= SMART!!!!

 

[av8er2]

The ramp was 100 times worse when BL was in charge, bet SW doesn't know this. When they put someone else in charge it got better.

I am getting really tired of mgt. blaming the pilots. They need to wise up and spend some money and time to fix other areas. That is what will save them millions. Happy pilots will also save millions.

 

[General Lee]

Hey General,

I thought you went to the Mad Dog's left seat. Maybe I bez confused.

I am working on it! No comment until everything is done.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

GL is that one of the 767s they are parking--guess he will not be pulling in front of that one anymore...or maybe all the 777s dl was getting years ago,oh but no we have to have 300.00/hr.. Good solution by DL--Not to get anymore.= SMART!!!!

We actually have done really well with our lease negotiations, and we will be saving more than $200 million a year in payments alone. I think we were going to give up three domestic 767-300s, but I have also heard that we may have already renegotiated them. I also heard that all but 4 MD88s were renegotiated, and those could be on the way. Thanks though. Good try and attempt to slam me. You sound drunk. And, if you think that our past higher wages affected our total orders of 777s, then you are mistaken. We ordered the 777s first, and then did the wage negotiations. At the time we also had 12 MD11s, and 20 or more L1011s that were doing plenty of INTL runs.(9-11 took care of most of those) And, we had (have) more widebody 767s than anyone else. You really aren't SMART!!!!!


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

And, we had (have) more widebody 767s than anyone else.

Gee, thanks for clarifying "widebody 767s"....I would have confused them with other 767's.

Redundancy, General Lee, like the skin folds on the back of your neck.

 

["GO AROUND"]

How about the RJs or ATRs not being able to take a full load of bags during bad weather? I talked to a PFN agent and he said the local bag guy makes over $100,000 a year to deliver late bags to pax. Is that Delta's fault? What are you smoking? The chronic, obviously.


Bye Bye--General Lee

General, our SOP is that we bump passengers before bags. The FAA in it's infinite wisdom(NOT!) is to blame for the weight issues on the RJ. Having to count bags twice when there is only one just because the carry on goes in the back. Local bag delivery? Now that's the ticket! If this career goes down the toilette, I could do that.

 

[General Lee]

Gee, thanks for clarifying "widebody 767s"....I would have confused them with other 767's.

Redundancy, General Lee, like the skin folds on the back of your neck.

Just like the "widebody" 757-200s ATA flies. Say what? Oh yeah, they are over the limit by 2 pounds.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

General, our SOP is that we bump passengers before bags. The FAA in it's infinite wisdom(NOT!) is to blame for the weight issues on the RJ. Having to count bags twice when there is only one just because the carry on goes in the back. Local bag delivery? Now that's the ticket! If this career goes down the toilette, I could do that.

Blame the Air Midwest BE1900 crash for that one. Stuff 19 fat pax into a BE1900 with bags and you probably won't come close to the original FAA limits. They had to change it due to our fat way of life. But, that affects RJs too, and that makes them not as reliable and surely not as profitable. IF you buy a plane that states it can take 50 people and bags, and then it can't because reality sets in and we all realize people are fatter, then what good is that 50 seater? Did you know that your CR7 that flies to St Croix from ATL only lists for 40 pax? Out of 70 seats? I hope those are expensive tickets...(I know you need full fuel requirements for diversions over water etc)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[imacdog]

Blame the Air Midwest BE1900 crash for that one. Stuff 19 fat pax into a BE1900 with bags and you probably won't come close to the original FAA limits. They had to change it due to our fat way of life. But, that affects RJs too, and that makes them not as reliable and surely not as profitable. IF you buy a plane that states it can take 50 people and bags, and then it can't because reality sets in and we all realize people are fatter, then what good is that 50 seater? Did you know that your CR7 that flies to St Croix from ATL only lists for 40 pax? Out of 70 seats? I hope those are expensive tickets...(I know you need full fuel requirements for diversions over water etc)


Bye Bye--General Lee

I don't think that GO-AROUND's point was that passenger weights are increased. The problem is their weight includes a carry-on. So if a passenger brings his carry-on onboard the plane, he weighs 189 pounds. However, if the same passenger decides to check his carry-on at the plane, we have to add weight for the bag. The result is 189 pounds for the passenger plus an additional 20 for his bag. This can be a problem if you are close to max weight, though otherwise I like to see a lot of weight in the back. These things balance really nose-heavy.

 

["GO AROUND"]

That is what I meant. We have to account for bags that don't exist. This because some FAA idiot can't think and figure out the problem he has just caused. The RJ does just fine on bags except on extreme wx days that require unusually high fuel loads.

Can't speak to the 70 cause I have never flown it.