ASA insurance... cost rising again!

[Speedtape]

277/month....could be worse, I believe family plan at Airtran is at least 400/month...

Actually the correct figure is $227, not $277! That still results in a 24.33% increase over last year, not including some costly new deductibles in X-ray/lab tests.

 

[Gator1999]

Wow, really, try decaf.

What I want to earn, and what I value in my career and my life, can't be determined by FI. Or you.

As well, with the superior, holier than thou attitude dispalyed above, I suspect your family kinda wishes you were on the road a bit more. Why don't you come back to the regionals so that someday, if you study really hard, and if luck shines on you, you can be my gear b!tch.

Finally, Florida lost the game because they were not as good as LSU. SCOREBOARD.

You can put a bullet in my head before I ever fly with or take advice from a ASA turboprop FO tool like yourself. Come back when you have some more time son, then you can play with the big boys. Loser.

 

[CFI2766]

You can put a bullet in my head before I ever fly with or take advice from a ASA turboprop FO tool like yourself. Come back when you have some more time son, then you can play with the big boys. Loser.

Got that fact that I'm just a FO, did ya? You should probably interpolate that to mean that your value as a pilot would probably be the greatest realized as a closely supervised assistant to an FO. A turboprop FO, at that. Right back at ya!

 

[CFI2766]

You can put a bullet in my head before I ever fly with or take advice from a ASA turboprop FO tool like yourself. Come back when you have some more time son, then you can play with the big boys. Loser.

Loook, let me explain something to you. You come to this thread guns blazing calling out a guy for noticing that our health insurance is going up, you make a value judgement about your career versus my career, and then you make a wise@ss comment about my airline and the airplane I fly. What kind of response did you expect?

You are an arrogant son of a gun, aren't you?

With regards to the whole bullet in the head thing, just keep up your 'tude. I'm sure one of your FOs will oblige you.

 

[Gator1999]

Loook, let me explain something to you. You come to this thread guns blazing calling out a guy for noticing that our health insurance is going up, you make a value judgement about your career versus my career, and then you make a wise@ss comment about my airline and the airplane I fly. What kind of response did you expect?

You are an arrogant son of a gun, aren't you?

With regards to the whole bullet in the head thing, just keep up your 'tude. I'm sure one of your FOs will oblige you.

Dude, you really are wet behind the ears aren't you. Let me explain this to you then you can get back to your FO and CFI jobs.

I made the comment to JP, as a reference to a previous thread, and you know what, JP knows better than answering threads that are meant to get your goat. But you bit and I just love it when I can let loose sometimes on someone. Dude, it's flightinfo.com for christ's sake!

Truth is this, this job is more than flying a big airplane and being able to jumpseat around the country. If you haven't figured that out by now, give it time, you will. This job is all about QOL. What you get paid and the time you get to spend with your family is all that is important in the end. Unfortunately there are very miserable flight instructors out there that take a right seat job in an RJ and then all of a sudden have a sense of entitlement. Guess what...you have to earn it. You have to want this job bad enough to be able to survive. Everyone here has had to suffer through small paychecks, sitting for endless hours on reserve, commute to a job that takes you away from your family for days on end, only to come home to a wife who resents you because you are never home to pick up the slack when she's tired. So forgive me but I was trying to give you some insight as to what you can expect in this line of work. You got hired at ASA in Nov 06 so you really have only begun to be exposed to the airline lifestyle. I've been doing this since 2000 and there are people here that have been doing this much longer than I have. Still in the end, it beats working for a living and I hope that everyone can find in a job what I have been able to get here at NetJets. No I don't fly a 777, nor will I ever. But in the end, I live a very comfortable life, I fly really great equipment, with a company that really takes care of their people. I think that in the end, that's all that matters. If you can't see that, you are in for a world of pain and misery, you might as well quit now.

Nuff said. Good day.

 

[John Pennekamp]

You can put a bullet in my head before I ever fly with or take advice from a ASA turboprop FO tool like yourself. Come back when you have some more time son, then you can play with the big boys. Loser.

Listen here, "son", I've flown with CFI2766 and I'll have you know he's one of the best I've ever encountered. He's also got almost 2000 hours and got his ATP in GA. He loves to fly for all the right reasons, and has EARNED my respect. As far as I'm concerned, he's more one of the big boys than an internet troll Cessna jockey like yourself. He has the credentials to offer his opinion.

Way to flame someone you've never met. You sir, are the tool. Oh, and LOVED the LSU game.

 

[regionalcap]

Listen here, "son", I've flown with CFI2766 and I'll have you know he's one of the best I've ever encountered. He's also got almost 2000 hours and got his ATP in GA. He loves to fly for all the right reasons, and has EARNED my respect. As far as I'm concerned, he's more one of the big boys than an internet troll Cessna jockey like yourself. He has the credentials to offer his opinion.

Way to flame someone you've never met. You sir, are the tool. Oh, and LOVED the LSU game.

And the Auburn game..

 

[John Pennekamp]

John,

I'm confused at your logic. Please help. You're a self proclaimed Socialist. Okay, I get that. Now you're complaining because the cost of our HealthCare is rising. We need to take care of some of our less fortunate that are older and out of shape. (to be quite frank). If you are indeed a Socialist, shouldn't this be in YOUR best interest? I mean pay a little more to help everyone else? Just a little clarification needed. Thanx in advance.

Trojan

Glad you asked.

I'm complaining because we're being ripped off by a capitalist based, for-profit health care system, that is totally inadequate for the price we pay. The main reason health care costs are so high in this country is that costs for care of the uninsured are transferred to the insured, particularly hospital costs. But still the uninsured have a standard of health care that is far sub par to ours.

I'm an advocate of socialized medicine. Since we're all paying for the uninsured anyhow, we may as well make it formal.

A government run system would not discriminate, and would level the playing field in terms of how much we all pay. It would make it more fair and ensure everyone has a basic level of care.

And if the rich feel they want a better standard, they they will have the opportunity to pay extra for it... just as they do now.

 

[Gator1999]

Listen here, "son", I've flown with CFI2766 and I'll have you know he's one of the best I've ever encountered. He's also got almost 2000 hours and got his ATP in GA. He loves to fly for all the right reasons, and has EARNED my respect. As far as I'm concerned, he's more one of the big boys than an internet troll Cessna jockey like yourself. He has the credentials to offer his opinion.

Way to flame someone you've never met. You sir, are the tool. Oh, and LOVED the LSU game.

I guess when your airline is hiring pilots with 250 hours and a pulse then 2000 hours is more experienced, not much more but more. And who gives a flying f where he got his ATP. Like getting an ATP in Atlanta is so much harder than getting it anywhere else.

I don't flame too many people on this site but when I hear you spouting off at the mouth that NetJets isn't a place to go because we don't have pass benefits and jumpseat agreements, it annoys me that someone in your position could be so narrow minded as to think of that as a deal breaker. Forget the working conditions and QOL, if I can't jumpseat then forget it. If I'm not able to BUY a pass on my own airline then forget it. I understand you have your kids that you have to go and see in another state, but when was the last time you actually bought a ticket? If you haven't looked, your airline is practically giving them away. It's so cheap to fly now, it's no wonder you are making crap wages, your airline isn't making any money!

If you can't handle a Cessna jockey tool like myself dishing it out then maybe you should just log off, crawl back into your turboprop, and complain about your crappy TA. BTW, I LOVED the Appalachian State game...nothing pleases me more than seeing your Ann Arbor boys go down to a division IAA. Loser.

 

[USCtrojan]

Glad you asked.

I'm complaining because we're being ripped off by a capitalist based, for-profit health care system, that is totally inadequate for the price we pay. The main reason health care costs are so high in this country is that costs for care of the uninsured are transferred to the insured, particularly hospital costs. But still the uninsured have a standard of health care that is far sub par to ours.

I'm an advocate of socialized medicine. Since we're all paying for the uninsured anyhow, we may as well make it formal.

A government run system would not discriminate, and would level the playing field in terms of how much we all pay. It would make it more fair and ensure everyone has a basic level of care.

And if the rich feel they want a better standard, they they will have the opportunity to pay extra for it... just as they do now.

Thanx 4 answering. I, respectfully disagree with National Healthcare.

Trojan

 

[John Pennekamp]

I guess when your airline is hiring pilots with 250 hours and a pulse then 2000 hours is more experienced, not much more but more. And who gives a flying f where he got his ATP. Like getting an ATP in Atlanta is so much harder than getting it anywhere else.

I don't flame too many people on this site but when I hear you spouting off at the mouth that NetJets isn't a place to go because we don't have pass benefits and jumpseat agreements, it annoys me that someone in your position could be so narrow minded as to think of that as a deal breaker. Forget the working conditions and QOL, if I can't jumpseat then forget it. If I'm not able to BUY a pass on my own airline then forget it. I understand you have your kids that you have to go and see in another state, but when was the last time you actually bought a ticket? If you haven't looked, your airline is practically giving them away. It's so cheap to fly now, it's no wonder you are making crap wages, your airline isn't making any money!

If you can't handle a Cessna jockey tool like myself dishing it out then maybe you should just log off, crawl back into your turboprop, and complain about your crappy TA. BTW, I LOVED the Appalachian State game...nothing pleases me more than seeing your Ann Arbor boys go down to a division IAA. Loser.

Ha Ha. You nailed it when you said I had the discretion to ignore your attempt to rile me. I still have it.

But when you tear down the technical qualifications of a pilot you've never met due the opinions he shares on a message board, not only have you made yourself look like an a$$, but you've invoked my ire. Yes, I will defend him.

Now if you're happy playing chauffeur in your little twin cessna, that's fine. Enjoy it. But don't compare johnsons with someone flying a 66 seat turboprop at a 121 airline. I suspect my "little" turboprop would eat you for lunch if YOU had to fly it for 6 legs a day. Not to mention that I could probably carry your little twin cessna if the cargo door was large enough.

And as for the Wolverines, it isn't our year. No insult taken.

 

[Gator1999]

Ha Ha. You nailed it when you said I had the discretion to ignore your attempt to rile me. I still have it.

I thought I had you there but you proved me wrong, you couldn't resist could you. I thought you knew better.

But when you tear down the technical qualifications of a pilot you've never met due the opinions he shares on a message board, not only have you made yourself look like an a$$, but you've invoked my ire.

On the contrary, one who is willing to dismiss QOL issues for jumpseating made you look like an a$$. One who hijacks a thread to debate the price of milk and global warming made you look like an a$$.

Yes, I will defend him.

As a good captain should, bonus points...

Now if you're happy playing chauffeur in your little twin cessna, that's fine. Enjoy it. But don't compare johnsons with someone flying a 66 seat turboprop at a 121 airline. I suspect my "little" turboprop would eat you for lunch if YOU had to fly it for 6 legs a day. Not to mention that I could probably carry your little twin cessna if the cargo door was large enough.

I would rather chauffeur the rich and famous than tote socialist rednecks like yourself in and out of ATL all day long. But if that floats your boat, great have at it. I'd like to see your ATR take on the 750. Good luck with that, and yeah I'm glad that I don't have to work that hard for the pay you make, (you're getting ripped off). The day you do 2 transcons in a day then you can tell me about long days. Till then, have fun at ASA with your crappy TA! You deserve it.

 

[Speedtape]

I thought I had you there but you proved me wrong, you couldn't resist could you. I thought you knew better.

On the contrary, one who is willing to dismiss QOL issues for jumpseating made you look like an a$$. One who hijacks a thread to debate the price of milk and global warming made you look like an a$$.

As a good captain should, bonus points...

I would rather chauffeur the rich and famous than tote socialist rednecks like yourself in and out of ATL all day long. But if that floats your boat, great have at it. I'd like to see your ATR take on the 750. Good luck with that, and yeah I'm glad that I don't have to work that hard for the pay you make, (you're getting ripped off). The day you do 2 transcons in a day then you can tell me about long days. Till then, have fun at ASA with your crappy TA! You deserve it.

Well, it's still a glorified Corporate job. Enjoy your benefits while they last!

Can you get my bag, and make me a drink?

 

[Gator1999]

Well, it's still a glorified Corporate job. Enjoy your benefits while they last!

Can you get my bag, and make me a drink?

Sure I can Speedtape. All you have to do is work for your current wages, and save every last penny, for around the next 100 years before you'll be able to afford a share on a 750.

 

[CFI2766]

Sure I can Speedtape. All you have to do is work for your current wages, and save every last penny, for around the next 100 years before you'll be able to afford a share on a 750.

Which will be about 10 minutes before you can afford the exact same share. Who do you think you are kidding?

Oh, yes, I'd like my scotch neat. However, you can get to that right after you take care of my bag. Be a good pilot, and you might get a tip.

Once again, you are an arrogant son of a gun, aren't you?

 

[Gator1999]

Which will be about 10 minutes before you can afford the exact same share. Who do you think you are kidding?

Oh, yes, I'd like my scotch neat. However, you can get to that right after you take care of my bag. Be a good pilot, and you might get a tip.

Once again, you are an arrogant son of a gun, aren't you?

Man you crack me up. You really got me there, I didn't pretend to think that I could afford a share, but if you want me to fix you a drink, it's gonna take you going out and buying a share. And with that big paycheck you get, that's never gonna happen. Actually, I do make a good share of tips but I guess you wouldn't know anything about that at ASA either. Write me when you get your first $200 tip from a passenger, and we'll talk some more. Until then, your usual banter is starting to bore me. Have a great day.

 

[Speedtape]

Man you crack me up. You really got me there, I didn't pretend to think that I could afford a share, but if you want me to fix you a drink, it's gonna take you going out and buying a share. And with that big paycheck you get, that's never gonna happen. Actually, I do make a good share of tips but I guess you wouldn't know anything about that at ASA either. Write me when you get your first $200 tip from a passenger, and we'll talk some more. Until then, your usual banter is starting to bore me. Have a great day.

Doesn't FlightInfo have a directory for Corporate? You must miss your regional job! You don't drive a Corvette do you?

 

[Gator1999]

Doesn't FlightInfo have a directory for Corporate? You must miss your regional job! You don't drive a Corvette do you?

I'm sure they do just click on the link that says flightinfo.com hangar and look down the list, I'm sure you'll find it. Can't say that I miss my regional job but I still have friends at the regionals and people that I personally know that post on these threads, so I don't see why I can't post what I want, when I want. Nope, don't drive a Corvette, far too impractical.

 

[geojet707]

Wow, really, try decaf.

What I want to earn, and what I value in my career and my life, can't be determined by FI. Or you.

As well, with the superior, holier than thou attitude dispalyed above, I suspect your family kinda wishes you were on the road a bit more. Why don't you come back to the regionals so that someday, if you study really hard, and if luck shines on you, you can be my gear b!tch.

Finally, Florida lost the game because they were not as good as LSU. SCOREBOARD.

Dude, go back to playing Halo3 and get a life. Your problem is you haven't a tenth of the actual "living the dream" experience that Gator has. Your still in awe of your new regional job while having to work as a CFI to offset your great salary. What is it called, SNJS, or just still wet behind the ears? Wake up and smell reality. To quote the line from that great cult movie; "They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into, I say let them crash!"

 

[geojet707]

Got that fact that I'm just a FO, did ya? You should probably interpolate that to mean that your value as a pilot would probably be the greatest realized as a closely supervised assistant to an FO. A turboprop FO, at that. Right back at ya!

When you quit listing C182 or SR22 as aircraft flown, then you can talk with the adults!

 

[geojet707]

Ha Ha. You nailed it when you said I had the discretion to ignore your attempt to rile me. I still have it.

But when you tear down the technical qualifications of a pilot you've never met due the opinions he shares on a message board, not only have you made yourself look like an a$$, but you've invoked my ire. Yes, I will defend him.

Now if you're happy playing chauffeur in your little twin cessna, that's fine. Enjoy it. But don't compare johnsons with someone flying a 66 seat turboprop at a 121 airline. I suspect my "little" turboprop would eat you for lunch if YOU had to fly it for 6 legs a day. Not to mention that I could probably carry your little twin cessna if the cargo door was large enough.

And as for the Wolverines, it isn't our year. No insult taken.

Let me ask, do you hand fly that thing for 6 legs? Yeah, I thought so......

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Probably does. The thing uses NDB, VORs and I-20 to navigate.

 

[Gator1999]

Probably does. The thing uses NDB, VORs and I-20 to navigate.

Now that's some funny sh!t right there...:laugh:

 

[CFI2766]

Now that's some funny sh!t right there...:laugh:

Yup. It's the last true passenger airplane that regularly comes and goes out of the ATL.

Don't you kinda wish you were a pilot?

 

[geojet707]

Yup. It's the last true passenger airplane that regularly comes and goes out of the ATL.

Don't you kinda wish you were a pilot?

Can we say AUTOPILOT????? Yeah, its (the last great airliner out of ATL) got one...and used well I am sure.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

But still the uninsured have a standard of health care that is far sub par to ours.

I'm an advocate of socialized medicine. Since we're all paying for the uninsured anyhow, we may as well make it formal.

A government run system would not discriminate, and would level the playing field in terms of how much we all pay. It would make it more fair and ensure everyone has a basic level of care.

Lets be very clear about what he has just said. We would turn the healthcare system over to a GOVERNMENT RUN BUREACRACY! Is there ANYTHING in the US we would trust these clowns to run other than our military?

And one last thing, this is the most important. A level playing field means it would be sh1tty for EVERYONE! And all the workers, to use a communist term, would pay and the Bureaucrats would tell us what we can and can't do.

When we will make it official, it also would include 'EVERY illegal alien in this country.

Dick Gozinya

 

[Gator1999]

Lets be very clear about what he has just said. We would turn the healthcare system over to a GOVERNMENT RUN BUREACRACY! Is there ANYTHING in the US we would trust these clowns to run other than our military?

And one last thing, this is the most important. A level playing field means it would be sh1tty for EVERYONE! And all the workers, to use a communist term, would pay and the Bureaucrats would tell us what we can and can't do.

When we will make it official, it also would include 'EVERY illegal alien in this country.

Dick Gozinya

Well said...

It's the last true passenger airplane that regularly comes and goes out of the ATL.

ASA is the last of the airlines to be "regular". Unless you meant regularly bad service and performance.

"ASA had the lowest rate of on-time performance, and the worst rate of mishandled baggage among all 19 US air carriers reporting to the US Department of Transportation for the full-year 2006."

http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/reports/2007/Feburary/200702atcr.pdf

 

[PCL_128]

This has got to be the stupidest pissing contest in flightinfo history.

 

[geojet707]

This has got to be the stupidest pissing contest in flightinfo history.

Bump....

 

[Richard Gozinya]

This has got to be the stupidest pissing contest in flightinfo history.

WHATEVER!!!!!!!(In my best valley girl impersenation.)

Au contrair, mosieur! This goes to the heart of all arguements. Benefits are just that, benefits. And when you let the government get involved in it, it turns into a goat fvck.

Some people want to live in America, and turn it into France. Not me!

You can move to Gay ole' Pariee if you like, just leave it over on the other side of the pond when you get tired of the great big social experiment.

Dick Gozinya