ASA Hiring

[btflyer2]

? for ASA puppy . . .

So, given this information, would you assume that a new hire might go to the ATR???

 

[73belair]

A new hire could easily go to the ATR if there is a slot on the ATR thats open and no one bids for it.

 

[btflyer2]

I was trying to find out if a new hire might be assigned there due to vacancies??? Would the ATR be the most junior airplane in other words?

 

[maxcackel]

The word is new hires to the 50 in DFW except for a few to fill a couple spots on the ATR in ATL. Now that may change in the next five minutes but most likely not.

 

[91100 100 set]

speaking of the ATR...

Whats the story with these planes? Are they hanging around or are they leaving? Whats the movement like in them? I seem to remember a few years back when they were hiring the higher time folks into that because the upgrade was faster, while the kids fresh out of school got locked into the right seat of a jet. Whats the story these days?

 

[Medeco]

A good majority of them are leased. The official management statement is they serve their purpose well and they would like to keep them or somethiing like them on the property.

The lease is up in 05, so who knows?

Medeco

 

[ASApuppy]

The future of the ATR is with Delta MEC and their scope. For ASA, they are a money maker. But they fly short legs and like to avoid ice. They have 66 seats and are exempt from Scope. If the greater than 50 seat scope stays put, I'd put money on a Q-400 as a replacement. If the scope goes out the window, my bet is on the new modified CRJ-900 (more performance than 700). Either way, there is a light shining at the other end of the tunnel.

 

[General Lee]

Right now I do not see DCI getting anything larger than 70 seaters---but they may get a few more than the allotted 57 CR7s. Anything larger than 70 seats will go to Mainline---but probably at reduced rates......

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[79%N1]

I do not see Delta getting anything larger than 180 seats, at extra double secret reduced rates. I know this, you see, because I know all. I hear everything that goes on, from reliable sources you know. And, I am such a complete and utter loser that I have nothing to do but troll the regionals board even though I am a much holier and important mainline pilot, so I can shoot down all of you loser regional pilots theories, speculations and questions. You see, this way I can feel so good about myself and my superior knowledge and can condescend you all more with my superiority! I am the all knowing GOD of aviation! I am DALPA spokesperson, so I know ALL that DALPA will allow, and I can command this knowledge on all of you inferior regional losers! And if a comment on any item relating to Comair appears anywhere on the internet, a hugh "C" appears in the night sky, a signal from the commissioner indicating it is time for me to appear online, as ------ "THE GENERAL" ------ to shoot them down with my immence DALPA knowledge as well as my amazing intuition on the state of the airline industry. I have no company policies or proceedures to review to maintain my proffesionalism, no revisions to do......my mission in life is this, to mediate you loser regional pilots and expound you all with my superior knowledge and greatness!!

DALPA COMMANDS THEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Therefor, IT IS SO!!!

 

[FL000]

God forbid someone post an opinion. I personally think the General has been supportive of the the DCI regionals overall (especially ASA) and has acknowledged that DCI is helping to save DAL, Inc.'s hide right now. It's the RJDC that he (and most others) doesn't agree with.

There aren't a whole lot of DAL pilots that post here, so it's nice to get that perspective on a regular basis...even if one doesn't agree with the opinion.

 

[CRJ puppy]

79%N1...

Uncalled for tirade.

 

[Ted Striker]

my bet is on the new modified CRJ-900 (more performance than 700). Either way, there is a light shining at the other end of the tunnel. [/B]

Modified 900? Last I heard the 90 was a pig like the 50. Challenger=good, 50=pig. 70=good, 90=pig. Are they doing some mods to the 900?

 

[Dude]

....like to avoid the ice?

First of all, the ATR does a fine job in all wx. I have had severe icing on more than one occasion and it performed beautifully. We don't get the privilege of climbing to high alt to stay clear of the wx. It's not the best climber. In the summer, we get screwed and stay in the wx due to poor climb perf, but all things considered, I'd rather fly the ugly ATR than the RJ. If I get stuck somewhere(mech), I can drive home.

The DHC-8-400 burns twice the fuel and carries a couple more pax with over 300kts. The speed and few more seats aren't worth it when your going to CSG, AGS, or CHA. Everyone 250 below 10K anyway. If the company is getting rid of the a/c for a newer Turboprop, then why spend all the money on the CAT 2 tng?

 

[General Lee]

79%N1,

Thanks for that interesting diatribe. I am not all knowing, and I want you guys to get some more 70 seaters, but not anything bigger---because I want to actually have a mainline---and I think you should too. If you are a Comair pilot, I can see why you might be worried--since it may be awhile before you fly anything bigger--at least in the Delta family. We want to try to bring as many people over to Mainline---not bring mainline people to DCI. I am thankful that some of our furloughs have gotten that opportunity---but it will be great when they come back to 100 seaters or bigger, and then ASA and Chataqua people follow.
People like you don't really "get it." The more Mainline jobs---the better. The RJDC wants it the other way around.

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[79%N1]

Gen

I dont begrudge you your opinion, it just cracks me up that no matter what is said, there is the Gen - on the REGIONAL BOARD, telling us over and over, ad nauseum, what DALPA is going to allow! We get it. You want furloughees back to work, (commendable) don't like Comairs policies, (Understandable). I just cant help but wonder if you dont have anything better to do that troll the regional board and expound on us time after time what DALPA will allow or not allow! Not one post mentioning Comair or ASA does not have you force-feeding us DALPA rhetoric. I GET IT!

That said, I too hope Delta adds about 50 100 seaters, brings back furloughees, and hires ASA/Comair pilots exclusively to fly them when those pilots move up to bigger mainline planes! I'm just not going to hijack EVERY thread to drive this home to everyone who will read it......

SEE YA

 

[General Lee]

79%N1,

I really enjoy this board, and the WHOLE airline business. I do--really. Maybe I am just weird (probably), but I have opinions on all parts of this business. I flew in the commuters (pre-regional days), so I was there---not like many of the other Delta guys who flew in the Military. I have defended regional pilots many times--mostly to 727FOs when I was the FE.

As far as Dalpa goes, I am not a negotiator nor an MEC member, but I do question them often in the lounge and keep "my ears open" also. I pay attention. I wasn't trying to slam you guys---I was trying to tell you what I think will happen--and I did include the fact that I think DCI will get relief on the number of CR7s. As far as 100 seaters go---I hope DCI doesn't get any, but DO hope that our furloughs return and then DCI guys move up and get hired at mainline and start on them. We want to keep as many "higher" paying jobs as possible,a nd lower the number of DCI jobs that pay less. We should move DCI people up to Mainline if they want to go. From what I have read---I don't think Dalpa will "allow" any 100 seaters at DCI--and that is a good thing for you and me.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[79%N1]

More higher paying jobs for everyone.......I'm all for it! 100 seaters, maybe never at Delta or DCI, who knows. You probably are right, unless there is bankrupcy....all bets are off. One thing I firmly disagree with is Delta will NEVER higher strictly DCI guys. Too much of an ole boyz club for that to ever happen. To dangle the possibility is purely ludicrous.

 

[~~~^~~~]

The future of the ATR is with Delta MEC and their scope. For ASA, they are a money maker. But they fly short legs and like to avoid ice. They have 66 seats and are exempt from Scope. If the greater than 50 seat scope stays put, I'd put money on a Q-400 as a replacement. If the scope goes out the window, my bet is on the new modified CRJ-900 (more performance than 700). Either way, there is a light shining at the other end of the tunnel.

Sorry, but you are mistaken. ATR block hours are DCI block hours and we are scoped on the basis of block hours - this is another way the Delta MEC ensures we will never obtains enough votes to gain access to representation.

 

[barbarian4]

Has anyone out there in the pool actually been contacted about starting class on the 15th?

 

[wms]

The more Mainline jobs---the better. The RJDC wants it the other way around.

RJDC guys are mostly geezers that are still bitter that their misguided tactic in the fall of 2000 failed. Most guys I know here don't support it and would rather see the whole company turn around, and have opportunies for the return of the furloughs and future career advancement.