ASA drunk flight attendant cancels flight

[s.o.sJTB]

Al-queda's goal is to make us look stupid and turn us into a police state.....destroy us from the inside out.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Not to excuse this is any way, but....

Please, let's all recognize that alcoholism is, in fact, a diagnosable disease. I'm not saying, "Let's cut the girl some slack" by any means. However, from the perspective of someone who grew up around alcohol dependency, I would urge everyone to consider the possibility that there may have been more going on here than some nutjob flight attendant who wanted to have a drink or two.

My two cents anyway...

ps. Anyone who feels like making a reply on the order of, "learn to control the urge".... just skip it. With some people it's just not possible.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

I actually know a pilot who is good friends with her. it was .032. He talked to her today after she got out of jail. They compted drinks due to a mtx delay and she saw the captain take drinks from the liquor kit and said something to him about it. It was after that that he had the plane returned to the gate. She had been drinking the night before and blew under the legal limit for a flight crew member.

Not my words but from a trusted pilot that spoke with her today.

Untrue. Per crewtrac, that flight left 20 minutes late. Per company policy, they wouldn't have been comping drinks. Enough damage has been done without trying to drag other crewmembers down, don't you think?

 

[GeekMaster]

I KNOW THIS CAPTAIN. He flew with me many times when he was an FO. While I have not spoken with him since this incident, I seriously doubt he would have taken his own liquor stash from the galley over comped drinks. That would be a bigger shock than the idea of a drunk FA.

 

[sperfly]

I KNOW THIS CAPTAIN. He flew with me many times when he was an FO. While I have not spoken with him since this incident, I seriously doubt he would have taken his own liquor stash from the galley over comped drinks. That would be a bigger shock than the idea of a drunk FA.

I personally flew with this captain as soon as he returned from LEX and didn't know him from Adam. But I can assure anyone that without a doubt that the guy wasn't the type of person to steal from the company. And I'm pretty sure that .032 is a misprint and was told that it was indeed .32.

 

[bacardi]

Untrue. Per crewtrac, that flight left 20 minutes late. Per company policy, they wouldn't have been comping drinks. Enough damage has been done without trying to drag other crewmembers down, don't you think?

20 minutes late was due to an emergency call. Some lady fell down the stairs or got injured in some way. I didn't believe any off what I was told either but check the flow and it lists the reason why it was late. I have know idea why they would comp drinks. The girl is probably telling my friend fibs just to save face. Only posting what I've been told from him.

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

Who are you going to trust? A captain or some crazy stew that blew a .032 on the job and is trying to save her ass?

 

[sperfly]

Who are you going to trust? A captain or some crazy stew that blew a .032 on the job and is trying to save her ass?

Some of the newspapers are reporting .032 which can't be right because thats not even an arrestable offense as far as I know.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Some of the newspapers are reporting .032 which can't be right because thats not even an arrestable offense as far as I know.

One article I read said she refused to be tested, which may be why she was arrested.

(I'm a poet, and didn't even know it)

 

[Fred Rogers]

I guess the bottom line is that all the facts are evident and there are really no unknowns in this incident?

 

[pgcfii2002]

Won't you be my neighbor?

 

[HarryParatestes]

Some of the newspapers are reporting .032 which can't be right because thats not even an arrestable offense as far as I know.

Hey Goofball,
You are arrested before they administer the test. Field sobriety test can be give w/o arrest. Also, .040 is the FAA defined amount that you are "Presumed" to be intoxicated. You can be actually intoxicated at a lower amount, but the Prosecution needs to prove you were impaired at that lower amount.

 

[sperfly]

Hey Goofball,
You are arrested before they administer the test. Field sobriety test can be give w/o arrest. Also, .040 is the FAA defined amount that you are "Presumed" to be intoxicated. You can be actually intoxicated at a lower amount, but the Prosecution needs to prove you were impaired at that lower amount.

Easy trigger, all I was saying is what can they do to her if see is .032. Sure they can arrest her and throw her in jail but if see was indeed .032 why was she stumbling around and telling the captain that she was going to kill him. My point being is the fu<king media gets it wrong 98% of the time and I'm pretty sure it was .32 not .032. And I didn't even have to use all caps to get my point across.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Easy trigger, all I was saying is what can they do to her if see is .032. Sure they can arrest her and throw her in jail but if see was indeed .032 why was she stumbling around and telling the captain that she was going to kill him. My point being is the fu<king media gets it wrong 98% of the time and I'm pretty sure it was .32 not .032. And I didn't even have to use all caps to get my point across.

You meant large, bold font, of course.

 

[sperfly]

You meant large, bold font, of course.

My bad yeah I meant ginourmous letters.

 

[HarryParatestes]

Easy trigger, all I was saying is what can they do to her if see is .032. Sure they can arrest her and throw her in jail but if see was indeed .032 why was she stumbling around and telling the captain that she was going to kill him. My point being is the fu<king media gets it wrong 98% of the time and I'm pretty sure it was .32 not .032. And I didn't even have to use all caps to get my point across.

That I will agree100%. I'm sure the media has F'd it up.

 

[b707guy]

A very interesting thread. Our contract, and our company policy manual before that, calls for a crewmember to be pulled from duty if their breath (not blood) tests out over .02 but less than .04. Does ASA have a similar policy? I imagine we're not the only one. Either way, we can't even "report for duty while suffering from the effects of alcohol". Of course, getting loaded while ON duty is covered by another statement, too.

Also interesting: a simple Google search for Sarah Mills Delta resulted in "about 91,100" hits. Don't have time to read them all, but I guess the media in general really had their fun with this...

 

[John Pennekamp]

Here's the dirt I've heard. This from a mutual friend who talked to the captain when he got back (so it's second hand, but I consider the source reliable).

They left ATL late because of a pax injury. Got to LEX and the FA was acting very strange. Mumbling strange things. Stumbling up and down the aisle (she had been fine in ATL). In cockpit resting her head on her arms while saying crazy things during boarding. This is when she made the comment about having drunk a Jack on the way up. The captain was put in a bad position because everyone had seen her stumbling around and heard her make the Jack comment. This is why he HAD to call it in instead of covering for her (tell her to call in sick).

The crew suspects that she had taken medication on the flight up, something like Xanax, chased with the Jack, that caused her to act that way. This is all that would explain her being wasted at 0.032 BAC. And yes, she did initially refuse to be tested, and did tell the Captain "you're dead".

She is off line for the whole month, and has not YET been terminated. Being a FA on probation, I think we can all agree that she will be, but probably for the "trip failure" not the incident itself. That clears ASA of liability since the 0.40 alcohol policy apparently wasn't violated.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Here's the dirt I've heard. This from a mutual friend who talked to the captain when he got back (so it's second hand, but I consider the source reliable).

They left ATL late because of a pax injury. Got to LEX and the FA was acting very strange. Mumbling strange things. Stumbling up and down the aisle (she had been fine in ATL). In cockpit resting her head on her arms while saying crazy things during boarding. This is when she made the comment about having drunk a Jack on the way up. The captain was put in a bad position because everyone had seen her stumbling around and heard her make the Jack comment. This is why he HAD to call it in instead of covering for her (tell her to call in sick).

The crew suspects that she had taken medication on the flight up, something like Xanax, chased with the Jack, that caused her to act that way. This is all that would explain her being wasted at 0.032 BAC. And yes, she did initially refuse to be tested, and did tell the Captain "you're dead".

She is off line for the whole month, and has not YET been terminated. Being a FA on probation, I think we can all agree that she will be, but probably for the "trip failure" not the incident itself. That clears ASA of liability since the 0.40 alcohol policy apparently wasn't violated.

...our good friend xanax the palindrome makes another appearance.

That stuff will make you say and do all sorts of uninhibited things. Alcohol will surely exacerbate these proclivities. Expect ZERO memory of anything that takes place on it too. It essentially blacks out your memory.

 

[MQAAord]

Thanks for the info Pennekamp, I'd been REAL curious to hear something from someone at ASA.