ASA Crew Bid Sucks!

[johnpeace]

They have PBS.

And after CrewBid, it looks like we are one step closer to PBS ourselves.

 

[Speedtape]

And after CrewBid, it looks like we are one step closer to PBS ourselves.

Ok, fellow pilots, it's time to get past the denial stage and move on in the grieving process! FLICA is DEAD and Buried! It's time to move on in life!

We all know our friend, FLICA! Crewbid is no FLICA! However, it can get the job done! Our Corporate leaders say that it will continue to evolve! It costs us nothing in out of pocket dollars!

Our version of Crewbid is what we have and no amount of commiserating will bring our friend, FLICA, back! Crewbid will work and is still better than paper bidding. It's just not as slick and efficient as what we had in our friend, FLICA! WE WILL SURVIVE with Crewbid!

It is flawed thinking to attempt to associate our version of Crewbid with Preferential Bidding. There is NO CORRELATION or connection with PBS, no more than the correlation between FLICA and PBS. Crewbid and FLICA are simply tools to help manage a pilot's line bidding selection and then bid submission. They both employ sort features and filters to help the pilot select a line from a data base of "published lines"--with selection that meets his monthy priorities! Either of these tools is still much better than bidding from paper--although that process is still available for those who want to incur the expense of printing out the bid package. Neither FLICA or our version of Crewbid are directly associated with PBS.

 

[wms]

I think this crewbid was developed originally for PBS and adapted for line-bidding. Hopefully they'll be open to making improvements.

Before they even think about bringing PBS to us, the FA's better think it's the best thing since sliced bread since they'll already be using it. Poor schedule quality will quickly undue all of the progress ASA has made in pilot relations in the last year.

 

[Redan]

Easy solution... Bid reserve. Take a month off with pay.

You'll thank me.

Not to sound like a cynic, but if you do that and expect a month off, you may be disappointed.

 

[neecy]

f/a's are years from getting PBS. It will COST the company $$$$ so we will be using the Crewbid system just like you

 

[PalmettoPilot]

Try to take an objective look at the situation.

Crew bid is cheap and meets the limitations of the contract. FLICA was expensive.

ASA Pilots are the only crewmembers in the Skywest family who are not using PBS. Why would Skywest pump a bunch of money developing software that is only going to be used by 25% of the workforce?

If Skywest wants us to use PBS, why would they make the software easier to use if what they have meets contractural requirements?

It just makes sense for them to implement CREWBID and to NOT spend a bunch of dough improving it.

 

[centralpilot]

It just makes sense for them to implement CREWBID and to NOT spend a bunch of dough improving it.

That doesn't mean we have to like it.

 

[OCP]

Not to sound like a cynic, but if you do that and expect a month off, you may be disappointed.

Not if you bid nap reserve.

 

[SLUF4]

nap reserve isn't the holiday it once was-I miss those days

 

[SilverandSore]

Typical whiny puss pilots. Always b!tching about something. Deal with it. You'll live.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Amen!!!
Silver!!!!
:smash:

 

[BigPappa]

Guys, come on! It will get better as it evolves. Those that know a little about programming in Ajax, php etc, also know how extremely complicated and time consuming it is to put together an application with those requirements.

 

[701EV]

ASA is only 25% of Skywest's work force?

701EV

 

[WalterSobchak]

ASA is only 25% of Skywest's work force?

I think he meant "ASA pilots make up 25% of the workforce that uses bidding software". However, if you want to get really technical, ASA FTE's make up roughly 34% of the SkyWest, Inc. full-time workforce.

Also, SilverandSore is my new hero.

 

[701EV]

I think he meant "ASA pilots make up 25% of the workforce that uses bidding software". However, if you want to get really technical, ASA FTE's make up roughly 34% of the SkyWest, Inc. full-time workforce.

Not sure whay FTE's are? In round numbers ASA pilot group is 38% of Skywest's Inc total pilot work force.

Bottom line is I hope they fix crew bid. It's not good business to piss off a pilot group that has been going the extra mile to keep things running smooth

701EV

 

[buscap]

This is not about pilots being a bunch of whining babies. This is about the company beta testing a piece of crap software on us. I have no doubt the software will evolve and improve, but we should not have to suffer the process.

Schedules and bidding are a huge quality of life issue.

ASA management has done quite a bit to improve our operation and in the process they've earned goodwill from the pilots. This stinker of a software test will set things way back if it isn't fixed by the NOV bids.

 

[ohplease!]

This is not about pilots being a bunch of whining babies. This is about the company beta testing a piece of crap software on us. I have no doubt the software will evolve and improve, but we should not have to suffer the process.

Schedules and bidding are a huge quality of life issue.

ASA management has done quite a bit to improve our operation and in the process they've earned goodwill from the pilots. This stinker of a software test will set things way back if it isn't fixed by the NOV bids.

whats the problem? act like you have a brain and bid like you used to.....This may come as a total shock but I'm not the brightest bulb in the box and I got my first choice (as usual) 16 days off/weekends off/AND blocked at 80+hrs.

so you can't see the lines you've already bid. big deal. deal with it. they'll fix that. damn. crybaby....:crying:

 

[wms]

Not sure whay FTE's are? In round numbers ASA pilot group is 38% of Skywest's Inc total pilot work force.

Bottom line is I hope they fix crew bid. It's not good business to piss off a pilot group that has been going the extra mile to keep things running smooth

701EV

Full Time Employees I think. We're 38% of SKYW, but the majority of their profits.

 

[wms]

whats the problem? act like you have a brain and bid like you used to.....This may come as a total shock but I'm not the brightest bulb in the box and I got my first choice (as usual) 16 days off/weekends off/AND blocked at 80+hrs.

so you can't see the lines you've already bid. big deal. deal with it. they'll fix that. damn. crybaby....:crying:

I got my 26th choice out of 47, I usually get within my top ten. I think it has more to do with the overall quality of the lines than with crewbid. The new system has distracted us from how bad the October lines really are.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

19 days off works for me!

 

[Speedtape]

I got my 26th choice out of 47, I usually get within my top ten. I think it has more to do with the overall quality of the lines than with crewbid. The new system has distracted us from how bad the October lines really are.

26-10=16

It sounds like at least 16 other pilots may have figured it out!