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jstyle13 said:
I agree that Scott skirted around a bunch of the questions(specially the contract compliance/inerpertation). Hopefully he senses how fed up we all are. Mabye mgmt and the MEC can get something done in the next neg. session....if it's the same old crap though....bring on the VOTE!

Scott will try to divide and conquer our pilot group.

On the other hand Charlie will play the "Stockholm Syndrome". He apologizes for mistakes and errors that the company has made, even before he came here. He wants you to feel sorry for him.

Can you say "Good Cop Bad Cop!
 
DrunkIrishman said:
I can see people saying Capt. Reed is inexperienced for the job. I disagree about Capt. Childree. For one, he has a system seniority in the top 1/3 of the company. For two, he has been a Captain for more than four years here. He also worked on numerous projects at the GO before he became a CP. What other qualification do people want from him? The FAA says you need to have 3 of the last 5 years as a PIC to be a System CP; he is only an asst.
Capt. Reed on the other hand has failed to meet that requirement and I agree that she should not have been selected for the position.

yeah but he doesn't help. Fred helps...Carl just spouts the contract verbatim and then leaves you more confused than if you would have just not asked him. He is a nice guy...but as a chief pilot...there's Fred...and then everyone else.
 
DrunkIrishman said:
...The FAA says you need to have 3 of the last 5 years as a PIC to be a System CP; he is only an asst. Capt. Reed on the other hand has failed to meet that requirement and I agree that she should not have been selected for the position.

What about SH? Seniority #1655 of 1807 (According to December assignments)
 
katanabob said:
What about SH? Seniority #1655 of 1807 (According to December assignments)

S Hall has previous exp. at Chicago Exp. for the System CP job.
 
I had experience from from my previous airline as well, but ASA didn't roll out the red carpet for my arrival.
 
[...but as a chief pilot...there's Fred...and then everyone else.[/quote]

I am with Shamrock...AMEN!!!!
 
I'd go as far as say Fred and Bob are both good chief pilots.

Childree? You've got to be kidding!
 
IFlyFL410 said:
I had experience from from my previous airline as well, but ASA didn't roll out the red carpet for my arrival.

That's cause you're a worthless pilot. Did you forget? You should be happy with what they give you.
 
I believe you've missed the point of my post. I merely pointed out that Childree is qualified for the position, nothing more. Now if you want to compare Fred to Carl in terms of what they've done to be qualified, well, umm, hey they both had some crappy experiences in the E-120 (although Fred's was far far worse).

BTW, Carl's last system seniority is 525 out of about 1800 so that puts him not at 33%, but instead at 29%. My mistake, he was more senior than I thought.
 
DrunkIrishman said:
I believe you've missed the point of my post. I merely pointed out that Childree is qualified for the position, nothing more. Now if you want to compare Fred to Carl in terms of what they've done to be qualified, well, umm, hey they both had some crappy experiences in the E-120 (although Fred's was far far worse).

BTW, Carl's last system seniority is 525 out of about 1800 so that puts him not at 33%, but instead at 29%. My mistake, he was more senior than I thought.

since when does seniority make a person a good chief pilot? He might be qualified...but he is just a puppet...just what management wants. Initiative is not used at ASA...if we use it, we get suspended or worse.
 
*Sigh*

Again, I am not stating quality. I am only stating qualified. With that said, years of experience is relevant. I get it, you guys dislike him, that still doesn't mean he's not qualified.

And I'm spent.
 
shamrock said:
It was definitely an interesting exchange between the two of them. Scott seemed pretty straight up, but his answers to questions about the abuse and reinterpretation of our current contract seemed evasive and were weak at best.

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Didn't take you long to peg the ole Scott Jedi mind trick. Evasive is a great word to describe my former boss. When you are talking to him you are thinking "great.....great.....great". As soon as you walk away, you are like "wait a minute???? That's not so great....or is it?"
 
Freebrd said:
For all those that said SH was a great line pilot's kinda CP, well, it didn't take long! He suspended the dude that went to search for his bag for a week! Stated 'we have to get the attention of these pilots', or something to that effect. And he doesn't like our MEC Chair already....nothing like ASA cool-aid!


Was this the captain that left a plane full of people at the gate for 45 minutes while he searched for his bag...

What would you expect Scott to do? He has to run an airline.

What would you do if you had a pilot do that and you were Chief Pilot?
 
I am a Sober Irishman, not affiliated with my often drunk colleague.

I have found SH to a reasonable fellow, and probably know him better than most of my fellow pilots at ASA, this in part due to encounters at FSI during training.

Would be interesting to hear the whole "bag story" however....


"Top O' the Mornin' te ya'll"...
 
elcapitan said:
Was this the captain that left a plane full of people at the gate for 45 minutes while he searched for his bag...

What would you expect Scott to do? He has to run an airline.

What would you do if you had a pilot do that and you were Chief Pilot?

Never heard of this story about 45 minutes with pax onboard. Management has not even spun that line. The Captain was a victim. The assistant chief pilot was the problem. She offered no help in retreiving the Captain's bag even after two request for assistance and over 36 hours. Her only reply, "Wash your underwear in the hotel sink on your overnight". I wonder what the situation would have been if a male chief pilot told a female line pilot to wash her panties in the hotel sink on your overnight? He would likely be unemployed!
 
elcapitan said:
Was this the captain that left a plane full of people at the gate for 45 minutes while he searched for his bag...

What would you expect Scott to do? He has to run an airline.

What would you do if you had a pilot do that and you were Chief Pilot?

I would have fired the ramper(s) responsible for it and had a little talk with the asst. chief pilot (K Reed).
 
Then you would have a racial descrimination suit. "Crew Baggage- Leave on Board" has not been added to the Ebonics language curriculum yet, it's due out in 2025.

Then you get a sexual discrimination suit for picking on the only female CP.

Bottom line, you never win.

Practicing for my new job...... "Hello, welcome to Wal Mart"
 
Bizjet said:
"Wash your underwear in the hotel sink on your overnight". I wonder what the situation would have been if a male chief pilot told a female line pilot to wash her panties in the hotel sink on your overnight? He would likely be unemployed!

Couldn´t agree more with this comment! I wish they would get rid of her, but alas they would then have a lawsuit on there hands for sexism!
 
If a pilot suitcase is lost and is dumped on the nonsecure side of the airport at baggage claim, I'd report it to the TSA. That sounds like a perfect target for the terrorist to be looking for. All pilot suitcases are flagged with crew tags therefore they are an easy target to find.

I know that pilots carry pilot stuff, materials, manuals, uniforms, etc... in their suitcases. If my laptop was included, you could learn to fly the RJ with the Aerosim software.

Next time, I think it's your duty to call TSA, then the company and let the officials do their work. It may well result in an airport evacuation, but that's better than your uniform getting in to the hands of a terrorist.

We as pilots should be very aware of these types of risks.
 

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