ASA Contract Implt

[scarlet]

Daily trip trading was to start on Dec.17th I thought?
Then moved to Jan1st, I heard?
Lines due out on Jan. 10th for Feb.?

 

[Jmoney]

Well.....

Daily trip trading was to start on Dec.17th I thought?
Then moved to Jan1st, I heard?
Lines due out on Jan. 10th for Feb.?

From what I have been able to gather, we have pretty much given them all sorts of leeway on this one. I do not understand why-after all the hell they have put our pilots thru. The company says there is some software modification needed, etc, etc, blah, blah, but the FAs already have it available-they have had it for yrs.

Same excuses from our idiot mgmt.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Breaking News-

Despite signing a new agreement. ASA continues to suck.

 

[John Pennekamp]

We're enjoying the "honeymoon period" that the union promised wasn't going to happen. But, alas, MEC elections are this spring.

 

[Medeco]

Daily trip trading was to start on Dec.17th I thought?
Then moved to Jan1st, I heard?
Lines due out on Jan. 10th for Feb.?

Do you guys get the ALPA emails?

If you can post on here a few times a week, then you have time to research things the right way instead of sounding like a fool.

Medeco

Some of the issues that are being advanced are:

• Hotel Changes - The MEC has informed the company of a number of hotels in the system that need to be changed to comply with the new agreement.
• Effective Date - If you have recently finished training or are currently in training for a new position please review the new Section 24 provisions regarding pay in your new position.
• Distribution of revisions - After hearing the Association’s concerns, management has informed us that procedures are being developed to ensure that pilots will have access to revisions in an organized manner.
• The January bid cycle - The January bid cycle will begin January 10 for the lines to be awarded for the February schedule. Many of the new scheduling provisions will take effect that month. Be sure to familiarize yourself by reviewing Section 13 - Scheduling and LOA 7 - Implementation agreement in our new Contract 2007. The cover sheet to the January bid package will contain a lot of new information regarding the bid cycle. One bit of information will be the number of line check pilots bidding a line. If you are a first officer, be sure and look for the projected number of Line Check Airmen bidding, and bid enough extra lines to account for the possibility that you will have to bid more lines than your relative position on the assignment sheet. For example, if ten CR-2 Line Check Airmen are projected to bid, a CR-2 first officer should bid ten extra lines from his position on the assignment sheet.
• Ready Reserve Room - The ready reserve room will be located in D concourse. It will have a code for access that will be supplied to short call reserve pilots assigned to ready reserve. The room will be equipped with a computer and a phone. If a pilot desires to go eat, he will be expected to call scheduling and inform them of where he will be and if he is needed for an assignment, the company can have him paged over the airport PA system. Pilots are not required to provide a cell phone number.
• Future open time - The future open time provisions that were slated to take effect December 17 will be delayed until January 25. The delay is due to the development of the software to comply with the new provisions of Section 13.H.
• A new book for your flight bag - The new contract has been sent for publication. Each pilot will receive a Jepp-sized contract sometime after the first of the year.

 

[Medeco]

I happen to agree with JP in the honeymoon deal. It seems to go in the face of our MEC chairman's letter.

Medeco

 

[John Pennekamp]

I happen to agree with JP in the honeymoon deal. It seems to go in the face of our MEC chairman's letter.

Medeco

Yes, in my humble opinion, they're giving the company way too much leeway with the implementation. It's ironic that the company "found the technological solution" to implement most of the scheduling stuff that benefits them immediately, but they keep asking (and the union keeps providing) delays for the stuff that benefits us.

 

[Airboss]

If you looked at the reserve lines for Jan, there were 2 sets of 3 days for GDO's. That was not suppose to start until FEB. The company did that a month early as compensation for the daily open time problem.

 

[John Pennekamp]

If you looked at the reserve lines for Jan, there were 2 sets of 3 days for GDO's. That was not suppose to start until FEB. The company did that a month early as compensation for the daily open time problem.

You're kidding, right? So they "compensated" all of us by giving back to the 25% or less of the pilot group who are on reserve?

 

[John Pennekamp]

If they really want to compensate us, how about the union arranging some more of those $5 Wendy's gift certificates? Remember that one? No, probably not.

 

[scarlet]

Flica has real time access, I am not sure why we don't just use their system. The flight attendants use it, Airtran uses it for everything and it works great. Just silly that we pay a sch. just to look at open time !!

Yeah I still see in Flica lines coming out on 12th..??

I am sure they will say it was Delta's fault, we can't have them out now...or if they do come out on the 10th, they will be all jacked up !

 

[AT7^DRIVER]

When do the trip and duty rigs go into effect and underblock pay go away?

 

[TOOL CRIB]

When do the trip and duty rigs go into effect and underblock pay go away?

Jan 31 (first day of Feb 30 day schedule)

 

[John Pennekamp]

Flica has real time access, I am not sure why we don't just use their system. The flight attendants use it, Airtran uses it for everything and it works great. Just silly that we pay a sch. just to look at open time !!

Yeah I still see in Flica lines coming out on 12th..??

I am sure they will say it was Delta's fault, we can't have them out now...or if they do come out on the 10th, they will be all jacked up !

Flica is going away. The new contract says we can't be charged for it, and ASA doesn't want to pay for it. The "technological solution" the company is referring to is an in-house bidding system based on e-Trip, and similar to what SkyWest uses. But it's not ready for prime time, and even when it's released, will probably be far inferior to the commercially available solutions. Look at how crappy e-Trip is, compared to the real CrewTrac they copied. And of course, our awesome website that takes 20 clicks and detective training to find even the most bacic information (yet bombards us with company propaganda).

 

[John Pennekamp]

double post... WTF does this website hang up so much?

 

[Papa Woody]

• Ready Reserve Room - The roach-infested ready reserve room will be located in D concourse. It will have a can of Raid for use that will be supplied to short call reserve pilots. The room will be equipped with mousetraps and bait. If a pilot desires to eat the bait, he will be expected to replace it ASAP but no later than the start of his next required rest period. Pilots are not required to provide a cell phone number, but must purchase a Rosetta Stone language training course for Atlanta-English to be able to comprehend Hartsfield-Jackson PA announcements.

yeah!

 

[John Pennekamp]

but must purchase a Rosetta Stone language training course for Atlanta-English to be able to comprehend Hartsfield-Jackson PA announcements.

Copidat!!!

 

[OCP]

Thats great... The ready reserve room will have A competer and A phone. Hope 2 people don't need either one at any point. And no TV? WFT?

 

[scarlet]

36 month contract (Sch. section done for over 2 years) - 3 or 4 months to implement and we have a 2.5 year contract!

 

[79%N1]

I'm willing to bet nobody will ever use the ready reserve room, but will just hang out on C, where there are multiple pnones, computers, vending machines, popcorn and a TV. What a waste of time to even bother.