ASA closer to a strike

[ASApuppy]

I too have called my status rep and we seem to be on the same page. I think what we need to shoot for is that Zoltar package for our open issues. That would be keeping out 70 rates (although we need COLA), a raise on their 50 rates. As for retirement, I'm not in favor of a B-fund. I would rather see a pilot only 401k (so we don't see checks coming back to us for over-contributing) with company match on each check and add a Roth option. This kind of stuff should not have to be in the friggen contract. It should be company policy. Also, performance based incentives do not belong in the contract. And any bonus that is different from my peer at Skywest is wholly unacceptable.

The IP's is big difference from what I can tell. As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, but Skywest only has about 30 instructors. Many of them work voluntary overtime. I was told that the top money maker is in the $250k area, but only has about 3 days off each month. We have about 100 IP's. They don't make that much, nor do they work those kind of hours. There are no double sims for an IP at ASA. I can't speak for them as to whether they think thats favorable for them. We have some instructors that are there for the money and some that are there because they enjoy the job. Any IP's here, either side, want to speak up?

However, all this is just pissing in the wind if we can't legally keep the flying. If they want PBS in 18 months, tell them they can have it the day after the master seniority list for Skywest Inc. is created. You have to give them incentive you know.

 

[ohplease!]

The inefficencies in the training department have been caused by the company, not by the IPs. It was not their idea to split into training and standards, it was the companies.

I didn't say who caused the problems, just that they may need to be fixed....I've had plenty of "its their game and ball, I'll just play by their rules" times too. That doesn't make it right or fix the problem.

 

[ohplease!]

I too have called my status rep and we seem to be on the same page. I think what we need to shoot for is that Zoltar package for our open issues. That would be keeping out 70 rates (although we need COLA), a raise on their 50 rates. As for retirement, I'm not in favor of a B-fund. I would rather see a pilot only 401k (so we don't see checks coming back to us for over-contributing) with company match on each check and add a Roth option. This kind of stuff should not have to be in the friggen contract. It should be company policy. Also, performance based incentives do not belong in the contract. And any bonus that is different from my peer at Skywest is wholly unacceptable.

The IP's is big difference from what I can tell. As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, but Skywest only has about 30 instructors. Many of them work voluntary overtime. I was told that the top money maker is in the $250k area, but only has about 3 days off each month. We have about 100 IP's. They don't make that much, nor do they work those kind of hours. There are no double sims for an IP at ASA. I can't speak for them as to whether they think thats favorable for them. We have some instructors that are there for the money and some that are there because they enjoy the job. Any IP's here, either side, want to speak up?

However, all this is just pissing in the wind if we can't legally keep the flying. If they want PBS in 18 months, tell them they can have it the day after the master seniority list for Skywest Inc. is created. You have to give them incentive you know.

bravo, pretty well said.

 

[CFIT]

I was told that the top money maker is in the $250k area, but only has about 3 days off each month. We have about 100 IP's. They don't make that much, nor do they work those kind of hours./quote]

Close, a little low. You guys don't have a clue.

 

[737 Pylt]

ok, tell ya' what, go out tomorrow (or the day of your choice) and complete a trip without: dispatcher, fueler, catering, cleaning, gate agent, ramp tower, flight coordinator, scheduling, lav service, baggage handlers, tug driver, wing walker, mechanic, ummm I feel like I'm missing someone,,,,,oh yeah, a flight attendant, chief pilot (maybe we could get away with that one), Linda OR Mary Jane,,,,,ummm Probably still not getting someone in there....point is, we don't move an inch or keep ANYTHING together without the rest of them. So stuff that ego right back there where your head is and give the rest of them the credit they DESERVE.

Spoken like a true "management TOOL!"
I bet your knee pads with managements' name on it is even in your flight kit!

 

[Hobit]

ok, tell ya' what, go out tomorrow (or the day of your choice) and complete a trip without: dispatcher, fueler, catering, cleaning, gate agent, ramp tower, flight coordinator, scheduling, lav service, baggage handlers, tug driver, wing walker, mechanic, ummm I feel like I'm missing someone,,,,,oh yeah, a flight attendant, chief pilot (maybe we could get away with that one), Linda OR Mary Jane,,,,,ummm Probably still not getting someone in there....point is, we don't move an inch or keep ANYTHING together without the rest of them. So stuff that ego right back there where your head is and give the rest of them the credit they DESERVE.

LB is a useless angry troll that tried to swindle me out of money when the company screwed up deductions and got peeved when I said:"No Ma'am the contract says I am entitled ...." She then ripped the contract out of my hand and refused to help me when she read it. That mean old bat realized how stupid she looked. She is a flat out jerk.

Absolute spiteful waste of oxygen.

Oh yeah, my welcome to dungeon 'C' from her was a biz card shoved my direction and " Keep this! You'll be calling ME soon needing something". This wonderful welcome was before I said anything.

Yeah I don't forget. The other ladies were sweet as pie. LB= ________ You know what I would type.

 

[goodto50meters]

and yes, the MEC leadership is refusing to recognize that Comair+ is not a good target.

Fact check: Current proposal from ALPA has the pay below comair.