ASA Capt Brian Wilson

[astroglider]

Don't know how many of you read the recent letter to the editor (AvWeek Magazine Jan. 1st) penned by ASA Capt. Brian Wilson. It's caustically entitled "Delta's Unrealistic Pilot's".

The letter pissed off a more than a few DAL pilots...however after some "googling" and a few message board searches. Turns out this guy is an ASA management hack! All you have to do is search his name on this msg board for most of the details on this guy. What a loser!

Not even worthy of a reply letter, but I'll send one anyway in the hope of setting the record straight.

If anyone on this board is acquainted with this @$$hole....pass on this message. The Delta pilot's just added his name to "the list", you know the one...the list that those RJ Defense guys are on.

Remember those right? Those were the guys who took DALPA pilot's strike support money during the Comair strike then to thank us turned around and sued DALPA for our Scope clause restrictions. Now I'll bet those guys wish they had stronger Scope clauses in their contract. Serves'em right.

Astro

 

[michael707767]

I saw that letter and it pissed me off. I was wondering who the heck that guy was.

But now I remember.....all the ills of the airline industry are the pilots fault. Silly me.

 

[sleepy]

I left ASA a few years ago. When I was there this guy was in Crew Planning or something. I didn't know that he was a pilot, much less a Captain of anything.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

What !?!?!?! did he leave the Beach Boys?

 

[800Dog]

Don't know how many of you read the recent letter to the editor (AvWeek Magazine Jan. 1st) penned by ASA Capt. Brian Wilson. It's caustically entitled "Delta's Unrealistic Pilot's".

The letter pissed off a more than a few DAL pilots...however after some "googling" and a few message board searches. Turns out this guy is an ASA management hack! All you have to do is search his name on this msg board for most of the details on this guy. What a loser!

Not even worthy of a reply letter, but I'll send one anyway in the hope of setting the record straight.

If anyone on this board is acquainted with this @$$hole....pass on this message. The Delta pilot's just added his name to "the list", you know the one...the list that those RJ Defense guys are on.

Remember those right? Those were the guys who took DALPA pilot's strike support money during the Comair strike then to thank us turned around and sued DALPA for our Scope clause restrictions. Now I'll bet those guys wish they had stronger Scope clauses in their contract. Serves'em right.

Astro

So, what did he say? Know the guy from corporate flying days. About the biggest tool I have ever met. Gets off on being what he perceives to be a big fish in a little pond.

 

[RedDogC130]

Do you have a link for the article? I have no ties to DAL or ASA but would like to see what this guy said. Post a link if you can.

 

[Huck]

I posted this in the Regionals section last August

1999: Brian, me and my sim partner Sean S. are practicing on oral questions prior to our captain's rides in the EMB-120.

Brian asks me - so, you're holding over Macon, ATL's closed, how low will you let your gas get before you divert to Macon?

I said I wanted to be able to fly to ATL, shoot an approach, come back to Macon and land with 45 minutes of gas. I thought this is what he was looking for.

Brian then states that he would have no problem in DEPARTING macon for ATL with 400 pounds! (The Brasilia burned about 1000/ hour).

When I had recovered sufficiently, I asked him what he would do if the runway was closed in ATL. "I'd just land on another one." What if ALL of them were closed? "I'd just land on a taxiway." I asked if he was seriously talking about landing a Part 121 aircraft with passengers on a taxiway. He said sure.

Brian W and John G are the two main reasons I left that place. Somebody thank them for me.

Steve G
ASA Class of 1999

 

[Alin10123]

On a taxiway? Is he serious? Dang...

 

[eatme]

On a taxiway? Is he serious? Dang...

Why the heck not, Continental does

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Don't feel too special, Delta guys. He blames ASA pilots for all the woes here as well. He's also really good at writing articles. He wrote an article for our Flight Ops. publication a while back that was essentially a fictitious story about an ASA pilot's family dying in an ASA plane crash because the pilots forgot to update their Jepps and hit a tower or some such thing. I truly enjoy being lectured to like I'm in kindergarten. The man is more or less a joke here at ASA. He certainly is not representative of the ASA pilot group in any way.

 

[jester33]

Does anyone remember BW's story about your family getting killed in a plane crash because your buddy did not do his Jepp revisions?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

You gotta love the ASA. There's nothing like it in the world.

 

[Huck]

He dates back to when the training department was called the "Hitler Youth." All that was required to get in there was a distaste for line flying and a healthy sense of superiority over line pilots.

A few of those guys moved over and are now in Delta training, by the way.....

 

[michael707767]

Jan 1st AvWeek letter to editor by: ASA Capt. Brian Wilson:

Delta's Unrealistic Pilots

Regarding Delta Air Lines and its pilots in the 1990's, despite clear trends showing the impact of low-cost airlines on the profits of mainline carriers, organized labor continued to negotiate and/or extort extravagant packages from management.

For instance, according to a 2001 study by the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University, Delta pilots enjoyed an average month of only 41 hr. of flying. Compare this to Southwest Airlines pilots, who flew 61 hr. out of the 100 hr. a month allowed by the FAA. Southwest pilot were 50% more productive. If the average Delta pilot flew only 6 hr. per day out of the maximum 8 hr. allowed by the FAA, he/she worked seven days a month in 2001. I don't know too many businesses that could survive with this level of productivity. Questions that will help determine the future of mainline carriers are:

Will Delta's pilots understand the role they played to bring the airline to this point?

Will organized labor in the airlines learn the lessons of history in their industry?

Will ALPA pilots negotiate within market realities?

I am not hopeful.

Signed, Capt. Brian Wilson ASA, ATL

 

[RollinOnMy22sYo]

I remember when he was an EMB120 instructor, didn't have the seniority to hold Captain, but by whatever method, got hired as an IP with zero PIC line flying time.

I can think of at least one other management wannabe FO to IP story, who also likes to write the occasional "You bad, bad naughty silly pilots" article.

No one at ASA outside the GO takes any of them seriously.

Niether should the Delta pilots.

 

[N2264J]

If anyone on this board is acquainted with this @$$hole....pass on this message. The Delta pilot's just added his name to "the list", you know the one...the list that those RJ Defense guys are on.

Remember those right?

The Delta pilots have a list?

The plaintiffs have a list too. It's called discovery demands and apparently, the Delta pilots have yet to produce "the list" you speak of.

Dezi: Loo-cy, you got some splainin' to do!

Lucy: Whaaaaa...

 

[~~~^~~~]

Jeesh - don't tell me the Kellog School of Management at Northwestern University doesn't realize the difference between scheduling at an airline dominated by international operations with very long legs and a 737 operator running high frequency domestic operations. After all, if it all about most block flown in a month then Fed Ex and UPS's international operations must be a real money loser (yeah right).

Unfortunately schools like these mint out MBA's who don't know the difference either - who think that the secret to running an airline is simply finding some new paradigm that makes the mathmatical model work out.

Delta's problem wasn't its pilots. Delta's economic failure was the direct result of the decision to turn control of the airline over to inexperienced managers who basically did not understand how to run an airline.

I attended a meeting where Fred Reid was proudly proclaiming that Delta could borrow against its strong balance sheet to simply out last the competition. It was that sort of profligate mentality that ran Delta straight to the bankruptcy Court.

 

[jhill]

I left ASA a few years ago. When I was there this guy was in Crew Planning or something. I didn't know that he was a pilot, much less a Captain of anything.

Brian is a Check Aiman at ASA working under Tom Sorrell. He is an emotional idiot and has always been known for long diatribes on various subjects and all stir up shiite. He's harmless. I wouldn't waste too much time worrying or responding to him. Give him credit for putting his name on it. We do still have the right of free speech.

 

[michael707767]

I attended a meeting where Fred Reid was proudly proclaiming that Delta could borrow against its strong balance sheet to simply out last the competition. It was that sort of profligate mentality that ran Delta straight to the bankruptcy Court.

that is a great summation of what drove Delta into BK. Mullin, Reid, Burns, et al, thought just that. Borrow enough money to outlast the competition, and also outlast the cycle. The believed to their core that things would get right back to normal after a couple of years.

I think the truth was the airline industry had already started a huge change prior to 9/11, and the trauma of 9/11 allowed these fools to blame forces other than market forces for Delta's decline. Remember, Delta had lost money for 1 or 2 quarters prior to 9/11.

They did not face up to real change until it was too late.

 

[400ADude]

I remember when he was an EMB120 instructor, didn't have the seniority to hold Captain, but by whatever method, got hired as an IP with zero PIC line flying time.

I can think of at least one other management wannabe FO to IP story, who also likes to write the occasional "You bad, bad naughty silly pilots" article.

No one at ASA outside the GO takes any of them seriously.

Niether should the Delta pilots.

I heard he posts on Flightinfo as a Delta 737 pilot.