ASA=Back to crap trips...

[SLUF4]

The marina is fun-heard there is some winery around there also. i guess we hijack this into a TRI overnight things to do thread

 

[Abernathy]

Go to the marina and its a very nice overnight. All is what you make of it.
Get a real job if you hate it so much. Junority SUCKS. Just ask the guys at USair (east) on the bottom with a 86 DOH.

Shaddup.

 

[JettBoii]

Lake View Marina; sounds good. And as for you IUSETOCHEKEM; I was not complaining so do the right thing and farkoff.

 

[Data]

ASA needs to call back some guys to fix the mess they are in.

Not quite, they could raise line values and, voila, problem solved. They aren't calling furloughs back because there is no shortage of pilots.

 

[Metro752]

Not quite, they could raise line values and, voila, problem solved. They aren't calling furloughs back because there is no shortage of pilots.

Wrong.

They do need to bring back some people.

 

[777forever]

Wrong.

They do need to bring back some people.

Why dont you go start an airline, staff it your way, and tell us how that works for you.........

 

[Data]

Wrong.

They do need to bring back some people.

Actually, you are incorrect. The line values have hovered around the high 70's to low 80's. Reserves are being used in the 50-70 hour range with a handful going over block, there is plenty of room to increase utilization. Last month only 3-4 captains went over reserve on the 700. First step, line values, if they add 10 hours to each line they will cover an additional 1700 hours on the 700 and about 3300 hours on the 50, divide that back by 85 hours (for the line value) and you create 20-25 'positions' on the 70 which can go into reserve, on the 50 you get about 50 positions. Then fly all of those positions (they're sitting reserve) up to block along with the normal number of reserves and you can absorb a huge increase in flying. So, you are incorrect, we are not understaffed. I didn't say I like it, or defend it, but it is the most efficient/profitable way to run an airline. Unless, of course, out of sympathy, you'd like to run the whole thing into the ground and, subsuquently, watch 1600 pilot jobs go away. This is the new reality, it's what efficient managment does. The trick they're not factoring in is that you slowly destroy moral which starts to play havoc with other factors. Judging from Charlie's email, they recognize that and have increased line block hours.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Just like in October. I don't think I need to remind anybody how poorly that went.

 

[crj567]

Gzzzzzzzzzz gripe gripe gripe.. ya work for years and spend thousands to do something you "used" to love to do.. and now all some of you do is try to figure out how not fly....... Some here complain about not being paid while not being at home... boo hoo... really..

Try being at home and not being paid at all... ever.... try it in this economy.... For once I would like to come to this board and see something positive come out of the mouths of you guys and gals lucky enough to still have a job.. not to mention doing something you Love to do..

count your blessing for a change...

Remember there are millions on the street and no work to be found..

This is straight from the FI King!!! A job he surely feels "blessed" to have.

Smiles and hugs all around!

 

[Tom_Bodett]

This is straight from the FI King!!! A job he surely feels "blessed" to have.

Smiles and hugs all around!

All hail the king!

 

[777forever]

Question of the day: What would you rather have, a red arrow restricted line or be put back on reserve?

Because if you're a bottom of the pack lineholder and were screaming about red arrows, you're going to get what you asked for and as a result you and half the pilot group will be on reserve.

 

[SLUF4]

If you were put back on reserve and enough reserves were on the list, maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

 

[79%N1]

Question of the day: What would you rather have, a red arrow restricted line or be put back on reserve?

Because if you're a bottom of the pack lineholder and were screaming about red arrows, you're going to get what you asked for and as a result you and half the pilot group will be on reserve.

Ding Ding Ding.......

And we have a winner! This is exactly where I fall, and I would kill for one of your red arrow lines!

BTW, the pay difference from when I was a lineholder to reserve is roughly $1,200/month net! BIG HIT!

 

[LazyLightnin']

Thought you guys were going to get great trips, once you voted PBS in?

Ahhhhhh, ballstein!!!! Maybe I'm just drunk but you crack me up, man. That PBS dealy ain't in until October, though. How's concourse A in cvg doing?

P.s. That comma in between "trips" and "once" was ignorantly unnecessary. Don't worry. We can read down to your level xxoo

 

[CFI2766]

Hard truth time, but is it better for the overall pilot group for there to be more reserves or fewer red arrow days? It's not pleasant, but for the majority of the pilot group, it is better to have fewer restricted days and more people on reserve.

Yes, it's inconvenient to not be able to swap your schedule due to red arrow days. Got it. Compared to not having a job at all, it's a livable situation.

An airline, or any business, for that matter, does not exist solely to provide its employees with a high quality of life. A business exists primarily to satisfy the needs of the shareholders of that business.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

No more October '09 please.

 

[samuraiguytn]

Hard truth time, but is it better for the overall pilot group for there to be more reserves or fewer red arrow days? It's not pleasant, but for the majority of the pilot group, it is better to have fewer restricted days and more people on reserve.

Yes, it's inconvenient to not be able to swap your schedule due to red arrow days. Got it. Compared to not having a job at all, it's a livable situation.

An airline, or any business, for that matter, does not exist solely to provide its employees with a high quality of life. A business exists primarily to satisfy the needs of the shareholders of that business.

Even with me on being on Furlough, this is well said.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Nothing like 15 hours in the dirty old Laquinta in tri cities.

Nothing like 20 months without a job.


Keep your perspective straight brah.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

This was only a demonstration that we MUST all do four-days. Personally, I'd rather have the trip variety than non red arrow days. However, it was only a demonstration for your pleasure.

 

[gator_hater]

An airline, or any business, for that matter, does not exist solely to provide its employees with a high quality of life. A business exists primarily to satisfy the needs of the shareholders of that business.

Really, I thought airlines were supposed to bow to our every need like fly 767's to MLB and 380's to HNL hourly so there would be no commuting or vacation issues.