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ASA, ATL Domicile Vacancies Expected Soon

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A few sources within the ASA administrative framework are indicating that vacancies and upgrades are highly likely in late spring, early summer. They seem to think that Vietnam openings will create the need for upgrades in ATL domicile. Also, the training department is expecting to increase its staffing in the coming months to accommodate these training needs. I hope they right.
 
Sure would be nice to get our furloughs back and put the displaced gys back in the left seat. I ain't holding my breathe though.
 
Yeah I will believe it when I see it! Just like FC on the 700's!
 
I can see it, and I'll tell you why. It's the middle of winter and we're running out of pilots daily on both the 700 and the 200 (at least on the FO side). Just one sick call, diversion, IROP day, and/or fatigue call can result in a cancellation at this point.
 
I can see it, and I'll tell you why. It's the middle of winter and we're running out of pilots daily on both the 700 and the 200 (at least on the FO side). Just one sick call, diversion, IROP day, and/or fatigue call can result in a cancellation at this point.

I believe that's because of a bunch of people being in training right now.
 
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a bunch of people weren't in training 2 months ago when it was happening.

Are you talking about Nov/Dec timeframe? I can't speak for the 200, but on the 700 almost no one broke guarantee and most people that were CMF were flown right up to 75 hrs of credit and left alone for the rest of the month. In December I was short called on Christmas day for a 4 day only to be taken off so I don't go over 75hrs. Don't remember ever looking at the reserve list and seeing no one available.

Can't speak for Jan because I've been pulled off.

When the majority of lines are crediting over 90hrs credit, most reserves are well over guarantee, and line holder JMs become the norm, then I'll start to think we are short-staffed.
 
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I can see it, and I'll tell you why. It's the middle of winter and we're running out of pilots daily on both the 700 and the 200 (at least on the FO side). Just one sick call, diversion, IROP day, and/or fatigue call can result in a cancellation at this point.




Having the least skilled crew scheduling department in the industry doesn't help
 
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well my friends on the 700 capt. side said the reserve list was empty several days over the last few months and on the 200 I at 80 hrs not CMF
 
The CR7 reserve bucket for captains is empty the day before, on a continuous basis. Summer block hour increases may also be a factor.
 
I think what might help is when line holders start getting extended. Somebody will start asking why are we paying 150% to cover flights? Duh! We are short staffed.

Still, I think our crew scheduling department could exhaust all of the reserves if we had 300 lines and 300 pilots on reserve.

Every trip I have been on for the past 2 years with the exception of the summer months has been a cluster ******************** and incredibly inefficient.

This week with 3 days of availability, I sat waiting on 2 broken airplanes for over 9 hours, and ferried 2 planes for no reason. Took me out of availability when I could've deadheaded back to ATL to cover sick calls. Instead me and probly 5 like me sat around while crews were being extended and flights cancelled!!
 
There comes a point when an airline must realize that adequately staffing the pilot ranks is simply "the cost of doing business".
 
There comes a point when an airline must realize that adequately staffing the pilot ranks is simply "the cost of doing business".

Sunlit,

For some strange reason ASA doesn't understand that!
 
There comes a point when an airline must realize that adequately staffing the pilot ranks is simply "the cost of doing business".

We are adequately staffed for an airline with PBS. All of their eggs are in that basket. Why do you think we need it before the summer? They couldn't sell this LOA as not displacing pilots if they didn't push it in the winter.
 
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I agree with sunlitpath on this one; we're getting obsessively cheap here...I heard the mechanics saying they have some new gloves to dig stuff out of the lav with (bottles etc that fall in there) and he described them as gloves like people at subway wear when they make your sandwich.
 
We are adequately staffed for an airline with PBS. All of their eggs are in that basket. Why do you think we need it before the summer? They couldn't sell this LOA as not displacing pilots if they didn't push it in the winter.
Crew scheduling practices can be equated to the guy who doesn't fill up his gas tank until the low fuel light comes on. It works for a while, but it will occasionally cause a problem. PBS may solve the frantic atmosphere in the crew scheduling department, but we don't have it yet, and its effectiveness remains to be seen.
 
Crew scheduling practices can be equated to the guy who doesn't fill up his gas tank until the low fuel light comes on. It works for a while, but it will occasionally cause a problem. PBS may solve the frantic atmosphere in the crew scheduling department, but we don't have it yet, and its effectiveness remains to be seen.


Good analogy!!

Also,

Like a fireman with an extinguisher putting out small fires in a room in the corner office, while the whole building is ablaze around him.
 
It is also a lot cheaper for the company to extend everyone up to your maxes than it is to hire or recal ppl. When it finally gets more expensive to do so, is when you will see them recall.
It takes about 30K in assignments to break even on recalling one person. I bet you are getting close, but not close enough.
 

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