GeekMaster
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Redan, WMS and all,
You guys are exactly backwards on this "fundamental point" of aircraft transfers. On one hand, I could scratch my head and ask, "where in the world did this mentality come from?". But, I know the answer to that question. It was funneled down to you either directly or through your ALPA reps from our now retired chairman Bob Arnold. The problem is that it got "bent" from its original version. What he "actually" used to stress to the pilot group concerned "growth airplanes". "There going to put growth airplans where they're needed regardless of pilot pay" was his battle cry. At the time, there may have been an element of truth to that considering SKW didn't have an ATL base, DFW was still open and SLC was the home of SKW.
Now SKW has an evergrowing ATL base along with several other regionals by the end of the year and ASA has been concentrated to a single ATL base sharing it with the crowd. Now this isn't "about growth" it's about sustaining. Now we actually DO have to compete for our flying based on cost.
Does that mean we are joining the "race for the bottom"? No it doesn't. Fortunately, now that Mesa is in section 6 with a single list, the race for the bottom should just about be done. The race we DO have to join is with our very own parent company. See they have an open choice as to where to put their airplanes. There is a HUGE advantage to having two certificates and two different airlines for them. Controlling costs is one of them, but there are others that many of you are totally missing. If costs are somewhat equal at both places, we could "actually" become competitive for once in bidding for other flying outside the DCI system due to no compete clauses with SKW air.
It costs alot to move an airplane. Even with the help of the A/C manufacturers paying training costs and eliminating much of the mtc costs through A/C retirements and new A/C awards, it still costs SKW inc to move them. Reducing the size of ASA minimizes their effectiveness in the business community at large. We would be MUCH MORE VALUABLE to them if we remained large with a cost structure similar to the other side of their operation.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRANSFER A/C "ANYWAY", THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO TRANFER THEM IF WE GIVE THEM NO BETTER CHOICE !!
You guys are exactly backwards on this "fundamental point" of aircraft transfers. On one hand, I could scratch my head and ask, "where in the world did this mentality come from?". But, I know the answer to that question. It was funneled down to you either directly or through your ALPA reps from our now retired chairman Bob Arnold. The problem is that it got "bent" from its original version. What he "actually" used to stress to the pilot group concerned "growth airplanes". "There going to put growth airplans where they're needed regardless of pilot pay" was his battle cry. At the time, there may have been an element of truth to that considering SKW didn't have an ATL base, DFW was still open and SLC was the home of SKW.
Now SKW has an evergrowing ATL base along with several other regionals by the end of the year and ASA has been concentrated to a single ATL base sharing it with the crowd. Now this isn't "about growth" it's about sustaining. Now we actually DO have to compete for our flying based on cost.
Does that mean we are joining the "race for the bottom"? No it doesn't. Fortunately, now that Mesa is in section 6 with a single list, the race for the bottom should just about be done. The race we DO have to join is with our very own parent company. See they have an open choice as to where to put their airplanes. There is a HUGE advantage to having two certificates and two different airlines for them. Controlling costs is one of them, but there are others that many of you are totally missing. If costs are somewhat equal at both places, we could "actually" become competitive for once in bidding for other flying outside the DCI system due to no compete clauses with SKW air.
It costs alot to move an airplane. Even with the help of the A/C manufacturers paying training costs and eliminating much of the mtc costs through A/C retirements and new A/C awards, it still costs SKW inc to move them. Reducing the size of ASA minimizes their effectiveness in the business community at large. We would be MUCH MORE VALUABLE to them if we remained large with a cost structure similar to the other side of their operation.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRANSFER A/C "ANYWAY", THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO TRANFER THEM IF WE GIVE THEM NO BETTER CHOICE !!
