ASA 150% open time

[OCP]

BTW when they take that nap and give it to a reserve, if the nap is 8 hours or more in layover time (usually something like 8:15), it isn't a nap anymore. Reserves fly the nap, come back, and get extended. Oh and if you call in fatigued, my understanding is that everyone gets to perform a special carpet dance for KS.

ASA is turning into Mesa, and BH does a great job of making us feel special to be part of it.

KS is the most useless thing I have ever had to deal with. The company can not force you to do any company business, i.e. meet with a CP. If you call fatigue you go home. Maybe call someone on your way out.

 

[zawillif]

Today's open time in IAD every single trip is a premium pickup.

 

[SLUF4]

Good post, Redan. I hope we can get some of this language changed in the next contract. There are way too many loopholes in there. Adequate staffing is a direct cost of doing business. They are making millions in profit off of our backs. To me this is not really that different from them asking us to take a pay cut to stay competitive.

 

[buscap]

Do you really fail to see the connection between open time pickup and furlough recalls? Really??? I hope your tires are not too expensive. It might take lots of open time to pay for their replacement.

Connection or not, your tire slashing threat is hilarious!!

Tell you what Sir D-bag. I don't qualify for a slashing under your criteria, but how about you grow a pair and put your money where your mouth is.

What kind of car do you drive?

And another thing, for anyone who thinks picking up open time is such a disservice to fellow pilots, I would suggest you make it a high priority in the next contract. We can get language which would give the MEC the power to make picking up open time embarrassing or difficult. How much negotiating time and effort do you want to spend on that one?

Until then, I suggest you come out from your tough guy closet and let us know who you are. You are so willing to slash tires, I'm sure you would be willing to publish the names of pilots who pick up open time.

Your strong feelings about staffing, reserves and furloughs are well placed, but this childish mentality about slashing tires is ridiculous.

You wanna help the furloughs so much? How about sending cash when they need it? Or maybe set up an online bulletin board with pictures of their kids? Put signs in the crew lounge letting everyone know we still have furloughs?

Get creative, but don't be an idiot.

 

[SLUF4]

i think he was just kidding about tire slashing, but I like your idea about pictures of them etc. I don't think it would stay up in the lounge too long, though. i wish the company could see that their ideas are disrupting the team effort they want so badly. look at us-fighting about this. these things are tearing us apart.

 

[SpyFlysDOTs]

Reading this thread, I see the lipstick is finally starting to wear off someone.

 

[Av8trix616]

BTW when they take that nap and give it to a reserve, if the nap is 8 hours or more in layover time (usually something like 8:15), it isn't a nap anymore. Reserves fly the nap, come back, and get extended..

This was being badly abused *last* summer. I can only imagine that scheduling are getting to be real pros with this tactic by now. Nothing like 8:01 on paper followed by a full day of extensions...

 

[Abernathy]

Either someone who wants it, flies or someone who doesn't want it, still flies it. Idiot.

Tarzan, they aren't offering premium pick up trips out of the goodness of their hearts. They're offering them because they don't have enough reserves to cover them and are hoping you people will pick them up at our (the collective pilot group) peril.

If somoene doesn't "want it," they'll end up extending a lineholder and they know damn well when that crap starts, it'll be 2007 all over again.

 

[Abernathy]

This was being badly abused *last* summer. I can only imagine that scheduling are getting to be real pros with this tactic by now. Nothing like 8:01 on paper followed by a full day of extensions...

There has been no shortage of fatigue calls for this stuff, and it'll hit them hard this summer. There's a reason they've let KS harass fatigue callers. There will be calls to the FAA this summer, I can guarantee it. More and more FOs and CAs are at the point where they just don't care anymore.

Our MEC is too busy making sure everyone gets an obscene amount of time to figure out if they want to upgrade to captain or not and not enough time ensuring the company abides to other more important contract provisions. The MEC has been bought cheap by the company for 6 hour days.

 

[Abernathy]

Then again I know there were some guys who got creative with swaps and bumped up their credit to 115-120 plus hrs. Maybe they're trying to prevent that.

Maybe you should put down that ice cold Kool-Aid, junior.