ARGH!!!! Stuck in a #&$*#&*# Hotel!!!!!!!!!

[LegacyDriver]

Sitting in a hotel same as you.

I feel your pain.

 

[greenj7]

Best time waster ever.....

http://www.stumbleupon.com/

 

[siucavflight]

Someone actually likes the Legacy? Wow, I really hated that airplane.

 

[2EASYPilot]

Who cares? I don't need them any way otherwise they wouldn't have burned--no wait, NAPALMED. If you burn a bridge let it light your path.

Live and learn...live and learn...

Shoulda' learned my lesson about coming back to this nonsense with muckraking anonymous lunatics casting stones from behind cover. Oye. Nice to see you have something productive to do, Diesel...

I am going to thown a log on the fire here and say I have been spending some time studying the future Legacy 450 and 500. The folks at Embrear are really on to something with this new series of corporate aircraft. Fly by wire, side stick. larger than a Hawker, etc. They will be producing a pretty slick product in the future. As far as the Legacy 600....

 

[LegacyDriver]

Someone actually likes the Legacy? Wow, I really hated that airplane.

You probably didn't even fly one.

If you actually did for any period of time, well... You are that 5% of the bell curve with an agenda. You can't please everyone.

Hell, people actually think Falcons are decent airplanes. *GAG*

Legacy is a great jet. As the previous poster noted, Embraer has it wired together.

I just landed with a bunch of guys from the UAE (thanks for the tip guys--huge!). I had so many damned bags I was ready to strap them under the wings. Gawd bless the EMB cuz nothing this side of a 737/170/A320 woulda' carried all that stuff.

Hate it all you want. No airplane is perfect. I like it. I can only think of one EMB pilot that I know who didn't like it--and he's a noob to the EMB and a CRJ lover. (Give him time... He's making 3x in the EMB what he made in the CRJ... He will soon turn to the dark side. MUHUHUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!)

:nuts:

Have a great weekend folks.


(BTW, though we may not agree on planes, I have to say I *LOVE* that avatar. I think everyone here agrees with me on that point. I hate to think the generation gap has struck me as I have no idea who she is. LOL!)

 

[siucavflight]

I flew the Legacy for four months out of Dubai. I was flying the ERJ 145 for Eagle prior to that, in my opinion the aircraft was a piece of junk, a throw away jet. It was fun to fly no doubt, but just built very cheaply. I remember when I first got to Eagle a captain told me "dont preflight it to hard or you might break it" If you like the plane good for you, but I will take the GV I am on now any day over the EMB.

 

[avbug]

Trying to educate the uneducatable gets tiresome more so than boring... People have their minds (incorrectly) made up on that score and nothing anyone says will change that...

Tiresome would be a very polite way to indicate the way most folks feel about you and your ramblings. Boring would be accurate, though.

You feel compelled to run your mouth about the Legacy constantly...and seem to think that most people care. We don't.

As for being the best aircraft in the world...it's not much of a cargo hauler. It's not really a rough field airplane. You won't see it delivering payloads from the air, nor hauling two hundred passengers for ten hour legs.

It's okay for what it does...which is just a sliver of what the industry does...it's hardly the best, or even suitable for MOST aviation roles. So...glad you like it for the little bit that it does...it hardly takes the place of anything else. It's just an airplane, nothing more.

Enjoy your boredom. Certainly the rest of us will.

 

[LegacyDriver]

You feel compelled to run your mouth about the Legacy constantly...and seem to think that most people care.

If you guys feel *compelled* to bring up the subject don't be surprised if I respond. I didn't mention it, you did.

That said, this is a DISCUSSION board. Seems to me that the purpose is to discuss aviation and have a good time with that. If discussions aren't a person's "thing" then perhaps they should leave the board.

We don't.

You got a frog in your pocket or something?

It's okay for what it does...which is just a sliver of what the industry does...it's hardly the best, or even suitable for MOST aviation roles.

Name me an airplane that is...

The point of an airplane is to be good at what it is designed for. The ERJ and Legacy do an outstanding job for what they were made to do. They aren't C-130s, F-22s, or 787s, nor a combination of it. But they're reliable, easy to fly, durable, economical, and in the case of the Legacy in particular the people who pay to ride 'em love 'em.

150+ and counting...

It's just an airplane, nothing more.

And a damned good one at that.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I flew the Legacy for four months out of Dubai. I was flying the ERJ 145 for Eagle prior to that, in my opinion the aircraft was a piece of junk, a throw away jet. It was fun to fly no doubt, but just built very cheaply. I remember when I first got to Eagle a captain told me "dont preflight it to hard or you might break it" If you like the plane good for you, but I will take the GV I am on now any day over the EMB.

Built very cheaply? You gotta' be kidding me. That airplane may be many things but cheap isn't one of 'em.

You wanna' see cheap? Go look at the vaunted 50EX. Panels falling off the window frames in the cockpit, crappy headrests, interior pieces that didn't line up, cheap plastic flashlight holders right behind your head so you can gash yourself when you sit in that tiny cockpit, DV window handles that break every third time someone closes 'em... I could go on for days.

All I heard was how great Falcons are and how I would love 'em. They're hopelessly overrated.

EMBs are hefty airplanes. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. All ya' gotta do is look at the gear, the DV window/handle/assembly, or the main door to tell that the airplane is built like a truck. It has to be for what it is designed to do. If it weren't a tough airplane it wouldn't handle what the Regionals do to 'em. An airliner by definition has to be tough.

Do EMBs have drawbacks and shortcomings? ABSOLUTELY. All airplanes do.

As for the GV, hey, glad you found your ride. All I have heard is how great Gulfstreams are (same song I heard with the Falcon). I'd be shocked if they weren't a disappointment as well.

Just sayin'...

 

[siucavflight]

I can not speak for the Falcon as I have never flown one. I am guessing that what you are posting here is flame bait as almost any EMB driver will agree on one thing and that is that it is a cheap aircraft, that is why EMB can make them so cheaply because it not made as well as other airplanes.

I honestly dont care about what airplane I am flying, give me a big enough paycheck and I will fly around a 172. Right now the GV is my favorite ride because it gives me the biggest paycheck I have ever had in aviation.

And the Gulfstream is far from a dissappointment, if I were buying an airplane and the price were equal I would take the GV any day of the week, as would 99 percent of the owners. The Legacy is selling somewhat well because it is a large aircraft that cost a third of what the GV costs.

Again if you like it good for you, but dont forget you are just the guy flying it, I would be willing to bet you that if your company got rid of their Legacy and siad that they were buying a 900EX you would be happy flying that as well.

Oh man I think that I was just hooked by his flame bait!

 

[LegacyDriver]

I can not speak for the Falcon as I have never flown one. I am guessing that what you are posting here is flame bait as almost any EMB driver will agree on one thing and that is that it is a cheap aircraft, that is why EMB can make them so cheaply because it not made as well as other airplanes.

Not flame bait. And let's be honest, most EMB drivers haven't flown anything else. When I first started flying the ERJ a few people grumbled that it was cheap... But those people didn't really have a lot to base that on. Not knowing any better I also thought perhaps it was a cheap airplane. Experience and perspective have changed my mind dramatically.

Folks I fly with on the Legacy have run the gamut. Many have flown everything (Cessna, Falcon, Gulfstream, Boeing) or close to it. They all sing the praises of the Embraer and give it deserved credit.

I honestly dont care about what airplane I am flying, give me a big enough paycheck and I will fly around a 172. Right now the GV is my favorite ride because it gives me the biggest paycheck I have ever had in aviation.

And the Gulfstream is far from a dissappointment, if I were buying an airplane and the price were equal I would take the GV any day of the week, as would 99 percent of the owners. The Legacy is selling somewhat well because it is a large aircraft that cost a third of what the GV costs.

Again if you like it good for you, but dont forget you are just the guy flying it, I would be willing to bet you that if your company got rid of their Legacy and siad that they were buying a 900EX you would be happy flying that as well.

NO MORE FALCONS EVER. Gawd forbid I have to fly a 50 or a 900...

I used to think pay would offset equipment, but after wedging into a 50EX for two plus years I have rethought that. Money is nice but it isn't everything.

Oh man I think that I was just hooked by his flame bait!

No you weren't.

You actually simply showed the rabble rousers how to craft a mature/adult response.

 

[siucavflight]

Well if it was not flame bait then good for you I am glad that you like your aircraft so much.

Have you ever flown a Gulfstream? If not I think that you will find a plane that you like better. I do have about 2800 hours in the EMB 145, and 250 in the Legacy so I do have some experience. Again the airplane was fun and easy to fly, but I did not have a lot of confidence that a severe turbulance encounter would leave the airframe undamaged, I have never flown an airplane with a stiffer wing than the EMB.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Well if it was not flame bait then good for you I am glad that you like your aircraft so much.

And I'm glad you like your paycheck!

 

[siucavflight]

And I'm glad you like your paycheck!

Dont get me wrong I love flying the Gulfstream, but I was making a point that for the right money I would fly anything that I felt was safe.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Dont get me wrong I love flying the Gulfstream, but I was making a point that for the right money I would fly anything that I felt was safe.

Amen brother. I hear ya.

I feel the EMB is very safe. Per your comment above: I've talked to the test pilots and listened to the things they did to it when they were certifying the thing. You won't have to ever worry about busting a wing off in severe turbulence, that's for sure. It is a tough machine. If a mid-air collision doesn't take the wing off I'm not sure what will.

 

[JettBoii]

Buy Call Of Duty 4 and play online.....you'll never leave the computer.

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Get drunk and post something on craigslist.

Shave your balls.

Get drunk and call your ex.

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Carrizzo Springs...i used to hunt there..nothing.

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Clean your pistol.

That should keep you busy foe awhile.

 

[avbug]

That said, this is a DISCUSSION board. Seems to me that the purpose is to discuss aviation and have a good time with that. If discussions aren't a person's "thing" then perhaps they should leave the board.

With you it's never a matter of discussion. You're more like a windup toy...the kind where one pulls the string and a pre-recorded message comes out. The little blue plastic pointer spins around, and lo and behold! It always points to a little cartoon picture of a Legacy...and there's you..."I like the Legacy." "Legacy, it's the greatest!" "There's nothing better than the legacy!" "If you love God, fly the legacy, because it's His airplane!" Yada, yada, yada.

Leave the board if I don't like to hear you prattle on about the legacy? I've been here a LOT longer than you...discussion is fine...but with you discussion is really more of a one-trick pony. A quick review of your posts shows that much.

 

[LegacyDriver]

With you it's never a matter of discussion.

Yeah, that's true, because all you know how to say is, "The Legacy sucks." Hard to discuss things with people like that.

Leave the board if I don't like to hear you prattle on about the legacy? I've been here a LOT longer than you...discussion is fine...but with you discussion is really more of a one-trick pony. A quick review of your posts shows that much.

Once again, YOU brought the plane up, not me.

If you bait a hook and the fish bites don't yell at the fish.

If you don't bring the jet up I won't talk about it. Simple as that. All I wanted to discuss in this thread is what people do when they're bored, that's it.

Sheesh. As the Scots say, "Give it a bye."

 

[avbug]

If you bait a hook and the fish bites don't yell at the fish.

Relax, brightspark. This is catch and release. You keep biting, you'll keep getting thrown back. I don't blame the fish for being dumb enough to stick the hook in it's tongue every time any more than I blame you for doing the same thing, or continually rising up to defend a worthless airplane.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Relax, brightspark. This is catch and release. You keep biting, you'll keep getting thrown back. I don't blame the fish for being dumb enough to stick the hook in it's tongue every time any more than I blame you for doing the same thing, or continually rising up to defend a worthless airplane.

I didn't get stuck with a hook, I just ate the bait and burped.

Worthless huh? That's why they're selling them for $25M apiece.

Oh, that's right. Hyperbole. Silly me.

I don't mind defending it, just don't accuse me of being the one who brought it up first.

Now if you've had your fun why don't you go "bug" someone else's thread, or would you prefer to keep going back and forth like a third grader?