Applying to the Majors and accident/enforcement history

[Liufeng]

Full confession time:

I had a accident in 2007. I had an enforcement action in 2008. They both show on my FAA records. I've been flying turboprops and regional jets outside of the US since I couldn't get another job after been fired from my job in 2008. Now I've been clean and very responsible for the past 5 years. I have learned the lessons I should have and applied them. I'm thinking about applying at a major. Will the FAA records torpedo my applications. I have not criminal, DUI, etc. problem.

Now I have 8000 hours and more than 1000 Jet.

What do you think?

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

[Dan Roman]

I'm not qualified to say anything definitive on what any airline would do, but, I can say I've seen a lot of people overcome all kinds of obstacles simply by not giving up. What may seem hopeless now could change completely, particularly in the next few years when there will be a lot of airline hiring. Being honest about your situation and being able to give a good example of how you learned from it could very well be a big plus in an interview.
My take anyway
Good Luck

 

[scoreboardII]

You cant win if you don't enter.

That said, you need to be able to show that these accidents, even if caused by you, were a result of a chain of events that you have now learned to stop and can bring a positive lesson from them to what you do.

Bottom line, try at wherever you want to apply, but never give up your day job...

Good luck.

 

[General Lee]

I would apply and if you get an interview, be honest. The interviewers would most likely be very interested in your answers. Good luck.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[ROSWELL41]

We're these small gauge GA type accidents/enforcements? If so, that may be less heavily scrutinized than if it happened at a 135, 121 or turbine part 91 operation.

 

[SIG600]

No doubt you have a huge hurdle to overcome. 10 years seems to be the standard. That said a friend of mine was recently hired at a major with a DUI, however he got it at 18 and is now in his 30's. Still took him a lot of networking and face time at job fairs. I would start there.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Apply and ditto what everybody else said. Spin it into a learning event and blame no one.

Best of luck to you. I hope you get good news

 

[Liufeng]

We're these small gauge GA type accidents/enforcements? If so, that may be less heavily scrutinized than if it happened at a 135, 121 or turbine part 91 operation.

Yes it was Cessna 207 flying in the bush that got me in trouble. Now I'm flying rj.

 

[booo]

Too little information posted, especially time and time line.

Crashed a 207 flying bush, under what rules; severity (deaths?/hull loss?), how much total time, and how much were you at fault vs mechanical failure/weather. Explain.

Enforcement action: related to above? Or totally separate? Time between if separate. Total time at time of occurrence? Severity. Did you buzz the senators picnic to impress his daughter or say "hey, watch this!" and do something REALLY asinine or forget to chock the aircraft and it rolled into the hanger wall?

Total time since screwing up? And have you TRULY "come to Jesus" in your approach to your career ?

Just like AA, you have to fess up, explain yourself, own up to your mistakes without blaming others. If you can't do it to your peers(?) on this board, how will you handle it in an interview, both explaining it to the paper shuffling babe in HR so she can understand it and later to the professional pilots on the review board that can decide your fate

Good luck, don't give up. Even the guy on the review board has skeletons. Be honest and appeal to his better judgement.

 

[ron burgundy]

If only you had applied at Airtran..you wouldn't have to worry. They didn't care and they had no standards. Unlike some others..that only hired "the best"(?). Then you would have won the lottery!

Sorry..not meant to hijack. There are 100 different threads for that conversation.

Carry on!