Application Question?

[timetoquit]

On ATA's application it asks if one has "ever been convicted or pleaed guilty or nolo contendere to a misdemeanor or a felony"

Does this mean speeding tickets and the like?

What about misdemeanor convitions that have been expunged and sealed?

 

[Lear70]

Just tell the truth. A traffic ticket is a misdemeanor (unless it's Reckless Driving which in most states is a Class C Felony). I checked the "Yes" box and put "Minor Traffic-related misdemeanor offenses only, no Felony or other Misdemeanor charges or convictions" in the blank below.

Always better to err on the side of safety and you should never lie on an app or interview, even a lie of omission will get you kicked out of the building faster than a senior airline executive asking for concessions.

 

[kn65]

I did not do the same in regard to that question. I was a cop for 9 years. A traffic ticket is considered an infraction, not a misdemeanor. A misdemeanor would be along the lines of theft, disorderly conduct, simple battery etc. I did not and would not consider traffic violations as part of that question. Certain traffic violations are misdemeanors, those would usually be reckless driving (as stated above), DUI, Driving w/o a license, driving with a suspended license and maybe a couple of others. Either way should be fine, probably whatever you are most comfortable with. Good luck Guys, and Gals.

 

[Lear70]

Reckless Driving and DUI's (at least in 6 of the 7 states I've lived in) are both Class C Felony counts. The only tickets (in those states) that are not misdemeanors are parking violations.

What happens if you say you haven't had any misdemeanors and your interviewer lives in a state where speeding tickets ARE misdemeanors? Are you going to argue with him/her? You may not run into this situation, but I'm not taking that chance...

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

just expunge your state DMV, police and court records, and check NO on an app

as simple as that

be sure to get your record from the national register, but remember, only DUIs and jailable traffic offenses go in there, and then only for 5 years

good luck

 

[WrightAvia]

Reckless Driving and DUI's (at least in 6 of the 7 states I've lived in) are both Class C Felony counts. The only tickets (in those states) that are not misdemeanors are parking violations.

A felony is something where you can be punished by one year and one day or more imprisonment in a state PRISON.

Please list the the state codes of these 7 states that have felony first offense DUI.

That's one year and one day imprisonment = FELONY.

You can spend up to a year jailed in the county clink, for a misdemeanor.

Next I suppose you are going tell tell me that silencers are illegal too.

 

[WrightAvia]

What happens if you say you haven't had any misdemeanors and your interviewer lives in a state where speeding tickets ARE misdemeanors? Are you going to argue with him/her? You may not run into this situation, but I'm not taking that chance...

Uhhhh...real simple there lawyer boy.

If you got the tickets in YOUR state of residence and they are classified as "INFRACTIONS" or violations of the the "MOTOR VEHICLE CODE" and the state where you are taking the interview, happens to be this mythical communist utopia where traffic tickets are classifed as "CRIMES", then what I would do is leave the tickets off of the form, because failure to follow simple instructions should be just as big a bar to employment as a couple of stale speeding tickets, no matter what state the interviewer resides in.

In the state where YOU lived in and recieved the ticket, were the traffic tickets considered non-crimes? Then answer no or omit, there is no provision in an interview for you to have to second guess the motives of an interviewer or hiring board, based on their states quacky laws and you don't have to hold your traffic citations in one state against a template of another states laws and re-evaluate your record.

 

[WrightAvia]

On ATA's application it asks if one has "ever been convicted or pleaed guilty or nolo contendere to a misdemeanor or a felony"

Does it say, traffic infractions (speeding tickets) here?

What about misdemeanor convitions that have been expunged and sealed?

Main Entry: ex·punge
Pronunciation: ik-'sp&nj
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): ex·punged; ex·pung·ing
Etymology: Latin expungere to mark for deletion by dots, from ex- + pungere to prick -- more at PUNGENT
Date: 1602
1 : to strike out, obliterate, or mark for deletion
2 : to efface completely : DESTROY
- ex·pung·er noun

If you have something that is EXPUNGED...I'd say go see an attorney and show him your application and talk to him about this expungment. Hopefully it is the same attorney that helped you get the record expunged. If it doesn't exist on record anymore and it is truly expunged, then I'd ask your attorney why you should or should not list that on your application.

If you are too lazy, scared or cheap to ask a lawyer, then you got two choices. Tell ATA about the expunged incident on the application or omit it and worry about it for a long time.