Anyone fly for Gulfstream out there?

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GIACPT...thats hurts because I thought I was on your side man!

I have changed my tune. I am all about paying for all my future jobs. I am looking forward to the day I can pay $100,000 for 250hours in a 747.

Toddart, how are you going to afford to pay for a place to live and food to eat while you are in training at Northwest Airlink? The way I look at it you paid about $800 a month to fly the B1900 for two years and now your going to have to foot your living expenses while in training at NWA. Let me know how you guys do it because after my two years at Gulfstream I am going to do the same thing. I am just hoping to pass that grueling interview at Gulfstream(oopps, I meant credit check)

PFTer for life!

 

[kilomike]

GULFSTREAM RESUMES: TO THE SHREDDER

If PFT ever became the "norm" at all levels in the airline industry I'm getting my own (censored) airplane and flying myself around, since I trust myself before I'll trust my life to some pft scum.

Once I get set up in business in the future, and I am looking to hire some pilots to fly with me in my corporate aircraft, well, guess what? The Gulfstream resumes will make a beeline to my shredder. I"m sure my shredder will be shaking with embarrassment to be associated with that kind of filth!!

SHRED AWAY!!!!!!

Corporate Memo:

From the Office of the President

To: The Mailroom Staff

We have purchased a new Brand X aircraft and are looking to hire one full time co-pilot. We have decided to have resumes sent to the corporate hangar. Any resumes containing Gulfstream Airlines, please shred immediately. The President does not want to waste time or effort seeing resumes from pilots who have flown (...er bought time) with Gulfstream. Your cooperation in this matter would be appreciated.

Thank you,

The Company President

 

[TurboS7]

Dream on and grow up.

 

[TurboS7]

The best way to make a pilot look stupid is to make him mad. Well I just got mad so I will look stupid. One of my first officers came from Gulfstream, he is now a Captain on the 727. Well he outflew and outsmarted any U.S. pilot that I have ever flown with. Frankly when it comes to smarts the European pilots make all the U.S. pilot look pretty poor. The U.S. pilots are undiciplined, very slopppy, and very unprocedural on the flight deck, and for the most part very lazy. I am a U.S. guy all the way and I hate seeing European take your jobs away, but you let them. This PFT smashing is a perfect example of how insane the U.S. pilot is, they are very hard to get along with on the flight deck. The individual from Gulfstream was also with the Dutch special forces, so maybe that is where is all came from, I don't know. But if you are going to compete with the outcome of Gulfstream pilots then you guys better shape up, because they are better than the averge by a long shot, so they must be doing something right.

 

[350DRIVER]

GIACAPT-
Sorry...I am not one of you "specials" who had to "BUY" "a" job as you "HAD" to do- sorry to burst your bubble and yes I can wake up every morning, look myself in the mirror knowing I did not make a complete mockery of myself as you did and that I am not a laughing stock in the industry- How does it feel to be disrespected and looked down on by the majority of your fellow aviators and quite frankly laughed at on a daily basis? (just curious)

IF I had to do as you did I would have chosen a different profession so please don't make FALSE statements to take the heat off of your "mistake"...

Atleast you are smart enough to get outta here and once again go into hiding where you are safe from the "verbal abuse" which is factual- too bad you have absolutely NO justifiable points to post here- I have never laughed so hard in my life reading your posts- THX- YOU ever consider the priesthood?

350
CFI/CFII < another way to "build" time up

 

[PositiveRate]

broken record

I kissed this thread goodbye a while ago, but decided to stop by for a quick look...same old sh$t, just another page...

Don't you guys have anything better to do with your time besides insulting one another behind the guise of your screen name? Get over yourselves already.

In all seriousness to the 350driver's and kilomike's and the other embittered souls reading this - get a life! While you're fighting amoungst yourselves, the rest of us are out furthering our careers and networking as opposed to pissing in one another's pools.

It's almost summer. Go catch a game or have a barbeque. I assure you, the "majority of your fellow aviators" don't give a rats a$s, so don't include me (us) in your arguments.

 

[Ty Webb]

Turbo:

Well, I don't know about the guys you fly with, but the vast majority of pilots I fly with are sharp, dedicated professionals. I doubt that Miami Air only hires mostly dullards and slackers with the exception of your Dutch buddy.

That leads me to ask- what kind of tone are you setting on your flight deck? If your style is too overbearing and too much old-school single pilot attitude (ie too much Lear driving), your F/O's will definitely appear lazy, because micro-managing or hogging everything will set a tone that their services aren't required or appreciated.

The best Captains I fly with include something in their brief to the effect of "You are a Captain in training . . . on your legs, you are the captain, unless I say otherwise. . . do as much as you can, and I'lll get the rest . .". That challenges the F/O to perform and allows him to function at his highest level. It doesn't sound to me like your F/O's are getting that message.

As for your praise of European pilots- I have flown with a fair amount of them, and I think your generalizations are pretty silly- in fact, one of the laziest pilots I flew with was a Dutch pilot! I have four friends that are Dutch pilots, and the only thing they have in common is that they can't stand each other!

 

[TurboS7]

Your a smart ol' chap there Ty. What it comes down to is the professionalism, dicipline and airmanship of the individual. This comes from the heart from deep down inside it is a quality that is developed long before anyone ever gets in an airplane. So pilot's can't be stereotyped or put n a category, they are all individuals. Some are going to be great and some are going to have their problems, some lazy, some hard workers, some complainers, and some not. As a captain I flow with the first officers, I tell them to do whatever they wish, as long as they comply with our company procedures. It is a lot easier for me to adjust to them then it is for them to adjust to me. The point is that it really doesn't matter where they all come from one way or the other, the point is it comes down to each person and how they prepare for the responsibility of being a pilot. I am not for paying for training, but in the argument that it is taking pilot jobs away it sounds like there isn't anyone that would want to fly for Gulfstream anyway.
In the LearI tried to run the flight deck just like the 727 at the time, you have a good point. In Learjet circles I was considered a woose captain because I used my FO and felt like I needed him. I used to fly every other leg with my FO to, I used to catch heat from others in the Lear world for that too. Luckly at the time I was Director of Ops so I was in a position to stop most of it. My big mistake was that I resigned as DOO and returned as a line pilot. At that time all the captains got their revenge, I should have left the company. But that is all past, yes at Miami Air we have some excellent FO's and a few lazy ones but we know who they are. As for micro-management I believe that to be a leader you have to be a servant, willing to do what ever. If there is something to be done and it isn't getting done then I will do it. That means I dig the TP out of the belly for the FA's( I am known as Captain TP), get the fuel slip, or help with the loading. In a quick turn I go back and help the FA's change the seat back covers and anything else. The priority has to be on the fight deck,I can accomplish all my preflight responsibilities there in about 8 minutes. Thanks for the reply I was hoping that someone would rise to the occasion to defend themselves. It sounds like just by your attititude that you would be a great FO or Captain to fy with. Thanks for your response.

 

[Ty Webb]

Turbo:

Thanks for the clarification. Glad to know you're not one of the "petty tyrants" that we all dread getting paired with. I don't know why those guys act that way, guess it's a combination of what they were taught, and their fear that they might be "shown up".

When I was in the left seat, I considered the other pilot to be another set of eyes, ears, and ideas. I used to ask things like, "Well, what do YOU think we should do?" because I wanted to hear their thought process. Maybe they had thought of something I hadn't, maybe they had learned something from someone else, maybe there was something new they could teach me. Because, in the end, it is the Captain's job to get all available information and then to make the decision. It doesn't make you less of a captain- quite the opposite.

At my airline, the captain's tasks on a turn can be finished up more quickly than the F/O's, too. I always appreciate a captain who says, "Hey, I'll get the outside" or who loads the FMS, or helps out in the back. I'm going to try to be that guy, when it's my turn, too. That seems to be the norm at my airline, thankfully.

Regards,

TW

 

[TurboS7]

Your airline and my airline come from the same great roots. The procedures and flight deck dicipline are there and shown by example. I have found that our airlines have the same procedures. The name has been lost to the history books but the respect, standards, and flight deck norms live on, passed from generation to generation of pilots. That is the great thing about an airline, almost like a dynasty-its good stuff. I tend to be a little ornery on this board to try and get guys to think, you are not one of them, I know how you think, and its great.