Anyone do flight plans like the feds?

[minitour]

If god had ment pilots to flight plan he wouldn't have invented computer flight planning programs.

or dispatchers

 

[EngineOut]

Ah, jokes on you...we dispatchers use computers, too. Heh Heh Heh.

 

[minitour]

Ah, jokes on you...we dispatchers use computers, too. Heh Heh Heh.

LMFAO!

 

[ackattacker]

Ahh, but what if the computer's out? Then you'll need to produce a "manual release".

As for me, I practice my manual release procedure every day! Can't be too prepared. With practice, it only takes a few minutes. But still, generating a release is usually easier with the help of the computer.

 

[JAFI]

rumble, it is important to learn the manual way of flight planning at your stage in training. You must learn the math used in each step to better understand the planning system. It is not too important flying the traffic pattern at the local airport, but when there are lots of just trees or nothing but water under you for hours upon hours, then fuel planning becomes very important.

When I did not have a Flight Management System (FMS) I used a small wiz wheel (e6b) I kept im my pocket because as my boss said "hauling a lot of fuel cost too much money" so we were always at min fuel levels. I was always working the wheel (in bad weather) to see when I had to divert if the wx went bad at the destination. Perhaps I was crazy, but this aircraft had flamed out on the ramp (no fuel in the tanks) with the gages showing a quarter tanks. The fuel computer was bad and no one knew. And we were always at min fuel for take off....

When you get to a FMS airplane the FMS works great IF you understand the limitations of the FMS program. They can have many traps that you may not see unless you know how to do manual planning.

Knowing the system can save you.

JAFI

 

[Flyingdutchman]

when in doubt, go with "C"

Nope, when in doubt, go with the longest answer

 

[Pedro]

when in doubt, go with "C"

Actually, go with B, if it is a True Flase question, then C is out of the question!

 

[avbug]

The problem is that today, too many kids try to run before they walk. After all, computers do all the work, why should they learn the basics?

I've never had a student that didn't learn to use every chart in the book, including time to climb and descend...and yes, I require students to calculate fuel for each part.

I also teach students not to think in terms of how much fuel they'll need for the flight, or how much they can get away with putting on...but in trying to see how much they can have when they land. Big difference.

Yes, you should learn to calculate the aircraft performance. All of it.

 

[Pedro]

The problem is that today, too many kids try to run before they walk. After all, computers do all the work, why should they learn the basics?

I've never had a student that didn't learn to use every chart in the book, including time to climb and descend...and yes, I require students to calculate fuel for each part.

I also teach students not to think in terms of how much fuel they'll need for the flight, or how much they can get away with putting on...but in trying to see how much they can have when they land. Big difference.

Yes, you should learn to calculate the aircraft performance. All of it.

I agree with avbug, when I was instructing I used to teach them to calculate the fuel for every part of the flight, and to always know how much fuel they had in the tanks at all times, how much time, not how many gallons.

 

[bobbysamd]

Flight planning, the way it was meant to be

I agree with avbug, when I was instructing I used to teach them to calculate the fuel for every part of the flight, and to always know how much fuel they had in the tanks at all times, how much time, not how many gallons.

I agree, with flight planning being done via E6-B. I would have no objection to using a calculator for the arithmetic.