Any new Trans states rumors

[WAZUP]

Any new Trans states rumors on when they will need a new hire class. I heard they are short pilots right now due to attrition and that most of the furloughed guys got new jobs.

 

[PropPiedmont]

Trans States and Go Jets seniority lists to be combined into single carrier.

 

[dardar]

Trans States and Go Jets seniority lists to be combined into single carrier.

I heard that one too. I guess the Trans States pilots are going to get stapled to the end of the G0Jets pilots list.

 

[arthompson]

A Rumor I'd like to hear: Hulas forced to sell TSA holding to someone that would treat the employees (TSA and GJ) right and then deported by the INS.

 

[flyer172r]

Once the ex-J41 guys start finishing up training, there probably won't be a shortage any more. Which is probably good for prospective new-hires because it means they can go somewhere else.

 

[rsspilot]

Trans States and Go Jets seniority lists to be combined into single carrier.

Wrong again......teamsters wont let it happen....and even if it did it would be years away.

 

[purduedchi]

Actually, the Teamsters wouldn't be able to do anything if the company wanted single carrier. They are just your negotiating entity right now. The company does not have to recognize them simply because there is no contract in place yet. Once you get a contract different story, but you'll be waiting years for that!

 

[TSA145]

Actually, the Teamsters wouldn't be able to do anything if the company wanted single carrier. They are just your negotiating entity right now. The company does not have to recognize them simply because there is no contract in place yet. Once you get a contract different story, but you'll be waiting years for that!

Teamsters? DT? Oh yeah the same teamsters' lawyer who has lunch with DH...the same teamstears who screws TSA's F/A.....right....say hi to DT.

 

[Fblowjets]

GJ came in second behind UND at nationals.. Good job

 

[rsspilot]

Actually, the Teamsters wouldn't be able to do anything if the company wanted single carrier. They are just your negotiating entity right now. The company does not have to recognize them simply because there is no contract in place yet. Once you get a contract different story, but you'll be waiting years for that!

Again your wrong....what a surprize.....teamsters could easily drag any managment decisions in courts for years because a judge has ruled that we are allowed to have teamsters negociate on our behalf.....as far as Hulas wanting one group...no way...we have 150 pilots with average tenure of two to three years...our contact with United is based on margins with low tenured pilots....throw in 150 tsa guys that have eight years seniority and it would probably double our labor cost.....Ain't Gonna Happen.......but hopeful thinking on your part. Face it dude...you blew your chance and we are gonna keep growing.

 

[mckpickle]

Again your wrong....what a surprize.....teamsters could easily drag any managment decisions in courts for years because a judge has ruled that we are allowed to have teamsters negociate on our behalf.....as far as Hulas wanting one group...no way...we have 150 pilots with average tenure of two to three years...our contact with United is based on margins with low tenured pilots....throw in 150 tsa guys that have eight years seniority and it would probably double our labor cost.....Ain't Gonna Happen.......but hopeful thinking on your part. Face it dude...you blew your chance and we are gonna keep growing.

You fuking usless scab. I bet your proud of what you've done. I wouldn't pi$$ on you if you were on fire.

 

[Shrek]

Negotiate you mean?......

 

[dardar]

You fuking usless scab. I bet your proud of what you've done. I wouldn't pi$$ on you if you were on fire.

I wouldn't either, but only because it seems like a rather ineffective way to extinguish such a fire.

You guys need to cool it a bit with the G0jet pilots. Yes, the TSA guys got screwed by management, but there is still more they could have done and haven't done anything about it but complain. And I doubt management reads FI so they probably don't even hear your complaints.

Management screwed you, you took no action when they did, and you expect some starving CFIs to do your dirty work for you by not taking a job? That to me is pathetic.

 

[N311HK]

Dardar and rsspilot
Oh its on.

We did nothing? I'm not even gonna waste my time punk. Maybe you should try raising a picket that says you will sell yourself out for anything. Have fun with your five day trips and 9 days off. Its good for a guy like you who has no life and no friends. You forget we work for the same company moron. You have no idea what you got yourself into. You have no integrity. Yes that I on your CFI does not stand for integrity. You're the type of guy who asks guys how many hours they have at a party. You'd probably steal from your parents just to get a cool pilot job. Keep growing? Hmm. Maybe but your manhood will always keep shrinking. I would love to meet you out of uniform some time. And if your so proud instead stapling a list, staple that badge to your head instead of hiding it in ORD or STL

 

[Smarta$$]

I wouldn't either, but only because it seems like a rather ineffective way to extinguish such a fire.

You guys need to cool it a bit with the G0jet pilots. Yes, the TSA guys got screwed by management, but there is still more they could have done and haven't done anything about it but complain. And I doubt management reads FI so they probably don't even hear your complaints.

Management screwed you, you took no action when they did, and you expect some starving CFIs to do your dirty work for you by not taking a job? That to me is pathetic.

Your way off dude. Trans States Holdings is furloughing pilots and hiring new ones at the same time. There is no way to justify that. There are several regionals in need of pilots for your starving CFIs to go too. We have all been starving CFIs at one point. It is called paying your dues or putting in your time. Just because you are a CFI and want a jet job does not forgive your responsibilty to do your part in maintaining this profession. The Trans States pilots as a group have always recognized that something should be done but I personally dont think it was handled properly.

If gayjets was the only company hiring you could at least try to make your CFI arguement, however it would still not be right in my book. But as it turns out I can name at least six regionals that are not alter egos that are hiring aggresively. No validity to your arguement.

So, grow a set, stop looking for the easy fast track ticket and put in your time like everyone else with morals had to do.

 

[dardar]

Just for the record I don't work at G0jets and wouldn't even if I were still a CFI and got offered the job. I just see how it's easy for a CFI to accept it considering what a miserable stage of my life that was.

All I am saying is that management screwed you and you guys still went to work the next day. Why would you guys do that? And DON'T tell me for the pay because most of you are college educated and can find a higher paying job.

You probably went to work for the same reasons the g0jet pilots took their jobs, whatever they might be.

 

[N311HK]

Yes went to work after we voted management's proposal by 75% because 50 bucks an hour to fly an RJ is selling yourself out. And I would rather make a stand for something I'm passionate about rather than go do some desk job with my degree. So back up about your post. And yes we voted no so those CFIs and future pilots would be able to feed their families without selling out. And if were up to many of us we would have loved to walk, but we as pilot group do things by the book unlike management.

 

[punkpilot48]

How can the average stay of a pilot at g0jet be three years? Have they even been around this long.

And as far as I am aware the united contract is with Trans States Holdings not g0jet.

 

[Guitar rocker]

A Rumor I'd like to hear: Hulas forced to sell TSA holding to someone that would treat the employees (TSA and GJ) right and then deported by the INS.

Exactly. That was great man.........one other thing that I would do for Hulas would be to buy him a nice delcious 20oz. Porterhouse as well. I know he wont eat it, so I'll be happy to eat it right infront of him.....

 

[STINKER]

You fuking usless scab. I bet your proud of what you've done. I wouldn't pi$$ on you if you were on fire.

Agreed !!!! However I would throw crap on you like a caged monkey rsspilot...thanks for crapping on my Trans States senority!! Rsspilot you indeed are a TOOLSHED!


Stinker
Ex Waterskier Current Jetlinker

 

[arthompson]

I know this is going to get me flamed but the problem at TSH is the Management not the guys that went to GJ. Waterski guys going at it with Gateway guys is doing *exactly* what Uncle H wanted. You guys are so pissed at each other that you're not watching for what he's going to do to f*** you next.

 

[mckpickle]

Agreed !!!! However I would throw crap on you like a caged monkey rsspilot...thanks for crapping on my Trans States senority!! Rsspilot you indeed are a TOOLSHED!


Stinker
Ex Waterskier Current Jetlinker

Now that thars funny! Welcome aboard! Over the last few years we seem to be the landing spot for the down trodden

 

[great cornholio]

Just for the record I don't work at G0jets and wouldn't even if I were still a CFI and got offered the job. I just see how it's easy for a CFI to accept it considering what a miserable stage of my life that was.

All I am saying is that management screwed you and you guys still went to work the next day. Why would you guys do that? And DON'T tell me for the pay because most of you are college educated and can find a higher paying job.

You probably went to work for the same reasons the g0jet pilots took their jobs, whatever they might be.

We went to work the next day because if we would have gone on strike like most of us wanted to then it would have been cosidered illegal.

 

[great cornholio]

How can the average stay of a pilot at g0jet be three years? Have they even been around this long.

And as far as I am aware the united contract is with Trans States Holdings not g0jet.

Just like most stuff from the GJ guys on here its lies. They have been around less than one year...Im pretty sure that the first flight was sometime around October 2005. I do know that when the letter went out to the TSA guys the first time around it said something about being able to carry over up to 5 years or so of your TSA senority to be put towards your GJ senority. Even though I've heard some of those guys have left GJ lately cause of the bad QOL. So your right...I really dont know how the average GJ guy is on 3 year senority, when most of the people came off the street and are on year 1 cause the company isnt even on year 2 itself.

 

[great cornholio]

I know this is going to get me flamed but the problem at TSH is the Management not the guys that went to GJ. Waterski guys going at it with Gateway guys is doing *exactly* what Uncle H wanted. You guys are so pissed at each other that you're not watching for what he's going to do to f*** you next.

Finally something I can agree on. What most of the GJ guys dont realize is that we work for the same guy. Hulas is busy screwing us (TSA) right now and the GJ guys are reaping the bennies. What they dont realize is that when Hulas needs something out of them, he will use us to screw them just like he is using them to screw us. With all of this fighting between the two pilot groups there is little energy left to fight the casue of our problems which is TSAH. What really needs to happen is that both groups need to come together and work as one to fight TSAH so that both groups can get a fair and decent contract. The sad thing is that I dont see that happening because we both hate each other and thats exactly what Hulas wants because its best for him.

 

[rsspilot]

You fuking usless scab. I bet your proud of what you've done. I wouldn't pi$$ on you if you were on fire.

Not likely to catch on fire....I fly a crj700 not an erj145.

 

[rsspilot]

How can the average stay of a pilot at g0jet be three years? Have they even been around this long.

And as far as I am aware the united contract is with Trans States Holdings not g0jet.

Yes your right...but the contract with united is based on flying 66 seat aircraft as opposed to the 50 seat a/c. Both parts of trans states holdings ( gj and trans states) operate on separate budgets meaning that it is possible for gj side to lose money and trans states side to make money....if our labor costs go up, than the GJ side will be a money loser for Hulas and he probably wouldn't stand operate GJ for very long....as far as three years...just a guess....we have probably at least thirty pilots that came over with at least ten years seniority in tact and the other 100 or so are less than a year.

 

[rsspilot]

Negotiate you mean?......

Yes shrek....I mean Negotiate...thanks for the correction

 

[djsk]

Can anyone chime in why there are always so many GJ airplanes sitting around STL !??????? Always 3-8. Which would be a huge precentage of the fleet. I guess if there are only 150 pilots that would be one answer.

My rumor - If the holding company is bleeding money with the GJ planes sitting around, they declare bankruptcy, throw out everyones contracts, and try to staple all the pilots together with a single pay rate.

 

[rsspilot]

Can anyone chime in why there are always so many GJ airplanes sitting around STL !??????? Always 3-8. Which would be a huge precentage of the fleet. I guess if there are only 150 pilots that would be one answer.

My rumor - If the holding company is bleeding money with the GJ planes sitting around, they declare bankruptcy, throw out everyones contracts, and try to staple all the pilots together with a single pay rate.

I can help you with that.....we took delivery of them early because Bombardier gave us incentive....we start the new United routes on June 8......you should no longer see them sitting in STL. Dulles to San Antonio.....Denver to San Antonio....Adding Albany and Dayton to our route structure.