Any info on Tradewinds

[CSY Mon]

Strong rumor says the next 747 should arrive around October or so...Then the 5th later in the fall.....We shall see.


Got the latest seniority list today.

No 747 capts hired off the street.
Upgrades from within should be coming soon now that the FOs have some time on the airplane.

Some A-300 guys have also trasffered to the whale.

 

[Bus Driver]

Flywrite, a belated welcome aboard. How's training going? I'll be in MIA on June 10 and 11 if you would like to visit. CYS, are you going to be around?

 

[CSY Mon]

Hi Busman.

Nah, won't be around then.
Going over to Korea in a few days.
Flying the Pacific system for a couple of weeks.

Just got home from Africa, spent 15 days over there flying into Lagos.
If I never see that place again, it will be too soon.

 

[Flywrite]

Flywrite, a belated welcome aboard. How's training going? I'll be in MIA on June 10 and 11 if you would like to visit. CYS, are you going to be around?

Thanks!

I was planning on being in MIA next weekend, but sim has been delayed again. I finished ground school about a month ago and have had my sim schedule changed twice since then. As of now I go to MIA in about two weeks. At least we get training pay to sit at home, so I cant complain too much!

If you dont mind a couple of questions, how do you like the company? and any good rumors for those of us who have been out of the loop for a month?

 

[Bus Driver]

Flywrite,

I am perfectly happy here. The money is decent, I love flying the Bus, 30 on and 30 off is great, and flying in China is, shall we say challenging. I talked to scheduling yesterday, and it looks like some of the Ft. Wayne flying has been delayed until Sept. so they are moving another airplane to China on the 20th. So it might be a good idea to brush up on your Mandarin. You will probably do you IOE in BQN. I’m sure you’ll enjoy that, especially if you golf or dive. We stay in the Monarch Plaza, Taoyuan, in Taipei, and the Hyatt in Macau. I personally prefer Taipei.
They try to schedule us for 3-4 on and 1 off, but like I’m sure you were told, the key here is remain flexible. At one time last month I was checked in to 3 hotels. All our legs either start of finish in Macau. Our only destinations right now are Pudong (Shanghai) Xiamen, Taipei and Macau. Four legs a day is the norm and about half the flying is during the day. Since all the trips are the same, seniority dosn’t really mean anything, and everyone usually gets Saturday off, Our maintenance crews are good and hard working. But we do run these old airplanes pretty hard so you can expect a few MEL’s. If you have any specific questions let me know.

T.

CYS, sorry I'll miss you, have fun in Korea.

T.

 

[Floyd94]

bump...

good info. carry on..

 

[Thedude]

I start class on 7/25 for the 747.....anyone...anyone....Buller

 

[3M1900FO]

Ive Been Here For A Little Over A Year From What I Here This Is The First Time There Over Crews And Have Not Furloughed Which Is Good But Me And A Colleague Are Getting Sent From The Right Seat To The Panel. In A Furlough Situation Ok But There Doing It Just Because There Short Of Fe And Fat On Fo. I Have 75 Under Me Of Course Mostly 747 Guys And A 747 Class Is Starting Monday. If You Come To Tradewinds Hide Your Fe Ticket But Overall Good Company.

 

[CSY Mon]

I start class on 7/25 for the 747.....anyone...anyone....Buller

Do ya know how many will be in yer class?

747 flying is down a bit as we have 2 planes in the hospital for D checks.

The remaining 2 are flying hard..One on the Pacific and one in Africa.
Needless to say, Africa goes junior...Serious pain in the arse flying over there.

My last trip was 4 legs, total of 14.5 hours block time and 27 hours on duty.
Not for the faint of heart....

 

[fr8doggie]

Ive Been Here For A Little Over A Year From What I Here This Is The First Time There Over Crews And Have Not Furloughed Which Is Good But Me And A Colleague Are Getting Sent From The Right Seat To The Panel. In A Furlough Situation Ok But There Doing It Just Because There Short Of Fe And Fat On Fo. I Have 75 Under Me Of Course Mostly 747 Guys And A 747 Class Is Starting Monday. If You Come To Tradewinds Hide Your Fe Ticket But Overall Good Company.

pLEASE bE aDVISED tHAT iT iS nOT nECESSARY tO cAPITALIZE tHE fIRST lETTER oF eVERY wORD tHAT yOU tYPE.

 

[fogrunner]

Flywrite,

I am perfectly happy here. The money is decent,


T.

Compared to what?

If www.airlinepilotpay.com is accurate, you are the lowest paid A300 and 747 people in the US.

 

[Flywrite]

Compared to what?

If www.airlinepilotpay.com is accurate, you are the lowest paid A300 and 747 people in the US.

Captain rates are actually $10/hr more than shown. There is also a $10/hr override for all crews in the Asia operation.

I'm not justifying rates that could be a good bit higher, but a first year FO at Tradewinds makes a good bit more than a first year at Gemini according to airlinepilotpay.com

 

[CSY Mon]

If www.airlinepilotpay.com is accurate, you are the lowest paid A300 and 747 people in the US.

True, it does not look good on paper.

On the other hand, in May this year, I made $13.5 K including Per-Diem.
Still had 7 days at home and flew 63 hours hard time...Pretty good for a first year pilot I'd say...

Now, if I made that every month I'd be in hog heaven...

There is some good work rules that is not reflected in the pay scales and things are-a-changing all the time as they are trying to keep the crews.

 

[Bus Driver]

The pay here is a little convoluted.
In may I flew 98:35 for $12,118 and $2826 in per diem and dead head. I took June off to play with Moma and the dogs. I consider that decent for a 1st. year new hire.
Flywrite, sorry I haven’t responded to your PM, I, uh, was playing with Moma and the dogs.
CYS Mon, If you ever get any time in RCTP, I’m usually at the Monarch.

 

[CSY Mon]

CYS Mon, If you ever get any time in RCTP, I’m usually at the Monarch.

Hi Busman.

Well, I don't do them Taipai turns, or layovers...Those go to the regular LAX guys.
When I do the Pacific it is usually ANC to ICN and back...ANC is nice in the summer...Me and my liver had a ball there last month.

The dark side of the coin here is the Africa contract...Just got back from 2 weeks worth of head-aces and BS...

If I never see that Fukken place again it will be too soon...But that is the name of the non-sced game...They call, ya haul...hour after hour after hour..The trip never ends...

Advice to newbies:

Do not answer yer phone on days off.

Nuff said.

 

[Thedude]

Looks like there are 6 people in my class. One week in GSO and the rest in DEN. Is that normal? I though most of G.S. was done in GSO. What have the trainig expeince been like at the United training center...never been there but have used the Sheraton across the street a bunch.
I am expecting the typical 2-3 weeks of systems and about 2 weeks to do the sim. Am I in the ball park?
I am assuming that I will be able to hold MIA off the bat.
I thought the $10 over-ride was for all intl' ops..not just Asia.
I am in need of a new ear-piece. Will the same one from the 727 work in the 747?

 

[CSY Mon]

Yeah MIA is the junior base.

The Asia over ride is for the Bus...747 gets it for all ops.

Training is ddifferent for every class as far as location, sometimes systems are taught in MIA, GSO or DEN.

Yes, ya are in the ballpark, but sometimes training can drag out 'cause of long waits between g/s and sim, sim and IOE, etc.

 

[3M1900FO]

consider yourself lucky to go to united in den aeroservice is depressing and so is the holiday in express in miami

 

[CSY Mon]

consider yourself lucky to go to united in den aeroservice is depressing and so is the holiday in express in miami

Well, Aeroservices in MIA ain't all that depressing...They got the easiest courses and the most laid back instructors in the industry....They cater to South American pilot training, can't be too tough on them guys, otherwise ya loose good paying customers....$$$$$.

Same as the Pan Am flight academy...Trained there too, lousy equipment and Spanish spoken in the offoces...But easy training...

 

[fogrunner]

Well, Aeroservices in MIA ain't all that depressing...They got the easiest courses and the most laid back instructors in the industry....They cater to South American pilot training, can't be too tough on them guys, otherwise ya loose good paying customers....$$$$$.

Same as the Pan Am flight academy...Trained there too, lousy equipment and Spanish spoken in the offoces...But easy training...

You don't have your own (Tradewinds) Sim Instructors?