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I think FLOPS is laying off more people today.
Wed, 18 Mar '09
"People Are Continuing To Buy Airplanes"
Ready for some optimistic news about the economy, for a change? A top Cessna exec predicts the downturn in demand for business jets is nearing its bottom.Roger Whyte, Cessna's senior VP for sales and marketing, told the Wichita Eagle Monday, "We continue to take orders; people are continuing to buy airplanes; we continue to deliver airplanes."
Whyte made his comments following a ceremony to deliver two Citation XLS+ seven-passenger business jets to Lufthansa Private Jet in Europe. Whyte says they'll be used to fly to places not served by the airlines. Lufthansa Private Jet says it will be the first commercial operator of the type in Europe.
Claudio Peer is the COO of Lufthansa's Swiss Private Aviation. He was in Wichita to pick up the keys, and noted the recent scarcity of delivery ceremonies. "Taking delivery of aircraft in these times is really very special," he said.
Whyte also urged a broad perspective in evaluating the marketplace. He noted that while 2009 business jet numbers will undoubtedly fall below last year's roughly 1,300 deliveries, it will still be well above the 300-to-400-per-year figures of the 1980s and '90s.
Whyte also observed that the recession has been good news for some position-holders who want to move up on the waiting list, and that Cessna is managing the credit crunch.
"...Aircraft are generally a very good asset because of the value, and we are able to find financing for our customers," he said.
An upswing in sales can't come soon enough for Cessna, or the business and general aviation markets as a whole. As ANN reported Monday, Cessna CEO Jack Pelton announced last week the company would trim production of all current Citation jets (save the Mustang) and slow development of its upcoming flagship, the Citation Columbus large jet.
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ARG/US: Flight Activity Data Shows Ray of Hope
According to ARG/US TRAQPak data, business aircraft flight activity increased 28.55 percent last month over January, possibly indicating early signs of recovery. ARG/US’s data covers all turbine business aircraft on IFR flight plans in the U.S., including international flights departing from or arriving in the U.S. While stressing that this is not yet concrete proof of a recovery of flying activity, ARG/US vice president Shirley Mason told AIN, “We are very interested to see the trend over the coming months.” If month-over-month activity continues to increase, she said, then this would “show signs of a recovery.” The specialized aviation-services firm estimates that flight activity has dropped an average of 1.81 percent per month over the last 12 months, with total flight activity declining 18.51 in that period. Compared with February 2008, business jet and turboprop traffic fell 26.6 percent last month, though it is 23.98 percent when adjusted for the leap day last year. All segments saw year-over-year flight activity decline last month, with large-cabin aircraft taking the largest drop at 41.4 percent. Turboprop activity decreased 19.9 percent year-over-year; light jets, down 28.4 percent; and midsize jets, down 24.1 percent. By operator type, Part 91 flying slipped 15.5 percent year-over-year; Part 135, down 46.7 percent; and Part 91K/fractional, down 28.1 percent.
According to ARG/US TRAQPak data, business aircraft flight activity increased 28.55 percent last month over January, possibly indicating early signs of recovery. ARG/US’s data covers all turbine business aircraft on IFR flight plans in the U.S., including international flights departing from or arriving in the U.S. While stressing that this is not yet concrete proof of a recovery of flying activity, ARG/US vice president Shirley Mason told AIN, “We are very interested to see the trend over the coming months.” If month-over-month activity continues to increase, she said, then this would “show signs of a recovery.” The specialized aviation-services firm estimates that flight activity has dropped an average of 1.81 percent per month over the last 12 months, with total flight activity declining 18.51 in that period. Compared with February 2008, business jet and turboprop traffic fell 26.6 percent last month, though it is 23.98 percent when adjusted for the leap day last year. All segments saw year-over-year flight activity decline last month, with large-cabin aircraft taking the largest drop at 41.4 percent. Turboprop activity decreased 19.9 percent year-over-year; light jets, down 28.4 percent; and midsize jets, down 24.1 percent. By operator type, Part 91 flying slipped 15.5 percent year-over-year; Part 135, down 46.7 percent; and Part 91K/fractional, down 28.1 percent.
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How about 65 for a variety of reasons.
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Nope, just can't go along with that.
As one who lost his job, I would guess I would still have it if the "over 60" crowd left the building.
Forcing people out just because of age is not a good idea.
If they can do the job, let them stay. It is their choice.
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Nope, just can't go along with that.
As one who lost his job, I would guess I would still have it if the "over 60" crowd left the building.
Forcing people out just because of age is not a good idea.
If they can do the job, let them stay. It is their choice.
How about the ones that cant do the job and the rest of us have to pick up the slack? Whats your suggestion for them? Why should I have to do both jobs cause some ol Fart cant hack it anymore?
As one who lost his job, I would guess I would still have it if the "over 60" crowd left the building.
Forcing people out just because of age is not a good idea.
If they can do the job, let them stay. It is their choice.
How about the ones that cant do the job and the rest of us have to pick up the slack? Whats your suggestion for them? Why should I have to do both jobs cause some ol Fart cant hack it anymore?
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Please read my post. I said "If they can do the job". If they cannot, then it is time to go on to greener pastures.
I'm well under 60, currently displaced, and close enough to the top that I would be employed by Flex if all the over 60 guys left, but I feel that kicking them to the street because you hit a certain age would be wrong on so many counts.
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Please read my post. I said "If they can do the job". If they cannot, then it is time to go on to greener pastures.
I'm well under 60, currently displaced, and close enough to the top that I would be employed by Flex if all the over 60 guys left, but I feel that kicking them to the street because you hit a certain age would be wrong on so many counts.
Hung
Please read my post: I said what about the ones that cant do there job? What do you do with them?
I'm well under 60, currently displaced, and close enough to the top that I would be employed by Flex if all the over 60 guys left, but I feel that kicking them to the street because you hit a certain age would be wrong on so many counts.
Hung
Please read my post: I said what about the ones that cant do there job? What do you do with them?
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