Any Dash-8 pilots out there?

[PA31Ho]

see the problem with experimenting with different techniques, is that if you don't land "the way you are supposed to" a lot of the old timers will slam your balls....

 

[JohnnyP]

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i use the adjustment balls and have no problem at all, matter of fact if i sit too low at all ill mess it up. i like to be up close and high if anything, makes the best landings for me, guess its just a matter of individual pref.

 

[WSurf]

Lands sweet at 900rpm!

 

[G2T]

The Perpetual X-Wind

Any of you run into the guys that land it like there is always a 15 knot crosswind, even when its a beautiful calm morning? Maybe one of you is one of them. They will wrangle it down to get one wheel on first everytime. It seems like a lot of work to me, and looks like crap, makes me laugh when I see it though.

 

[dhc8fo]

Any of you run into the guys that land it like there is always a 15 knot crosswind, even when its a beautiful calm morning? Maybe one of you is one of them. They will wrangle it down to get one wheel on first everytime. It seems like a lot of work to me, and looks like crap, makes me laugh when I see it though.

yeah, but it lands nicely everytime you do it this way (not that I do it this way, it is just a fact)

 

[Whitestoneclimb]

Greetings to all the ex-ALG folks out there. It was a pretty good place to work years ago. Anyway, I've always had better luck landing with flaps 15 and props 1050. I'd hold about 120 till over the approach lights and then pull the power back slowly to about 15% trq and usually I'd get a decent one, and occasionally a pretty sweet one! Pitch would be about 6 degrees nose up at touchdown. Flaps 35 are a bit trickier. You definitely need to keep some power in the flare or you'll drop like a homesick safe. I remember my first flaps 35 landing as an f/o in the Dash. Circa summer 1992, LGA-MHT. I made the mistake of pulling the power to idle in the flare and landed so hard, I knocked my headset off!!!!

Later

 

[ReverseSensing]

...and landed so hard, I knocked my headset off!!!!

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! You mean it's not normal to get your headset knocked off during landing. I'm gonna have to have a chat with all those Captains who claim it is normal for left-seat landings.


(I keed, I keed!)

 

[OPECJet]

Second that about landing it like there's a crosswind when its calm. I don't do it every time, but its a Dash 8 quirk.

Laugh if you like, but be thankful you still have all the fillings in your teeth when its over.

First flaps 35 landing I did 3 overheads came open. Company prez was on board. He probably still remembers my name......

 

[OPECJet]

see the problem with experimenting with different techniques, is that if you don't land "the way you are supposed to" a lot of the old timers will slam your balls....

Screw em!

As long as you're flying the plane safely and within the guidelines. Besides, tell me the way your SUPPOSED to land the airplane. We have 3 AFM approved configurations for landing the airplane. I've never heard anyone say anything about which was the right one to use until the last revision came out saying 15 / 1050 when conditions permit. Sure, the profiles for all 3 are the same, but good luck getting a smooth landing when crossing the fence at Vref. I know some can do it, but I'm not on that list. As long as you're in the TDZ, and everyone can walk off the airplane on their own, you've done a fine job....

 

[PA31Ho]

maybe I should get you some ky for christmas or one of the 8 days - whichever you celebrate there opec

oh, by the way i think you owe me at least a six pack for that 3 day

 

[FirstMate]

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I prefer doing 15/1050 and touch down with about 18-21% torque on touchdown. This usually results in a half way decent landing. Until recently, PDT preferred all landings to be 1200rpm...now they want to see us doing 1050's as long as conditions permit. I totally agree with the comment that some airplanes NEVER have pleasant landings. Most of the older -100's like 906-914 and some of the alg planes fly like trucks.

Not to hijack the thread, but are we losing the -200's and extending or picking up more -100's??

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Heard a rumor about the -200s going away, but that is about it. Nothing official.

I acutally think 906 is one of the better flying -100s we have. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

 

[OPECJet]

Sorry Ho. Flying with that dude is part of growing up.

You owe me a case if you got my 4 day. It was a good one.

 

[JohnnyP]

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dont listen to firstmate

 

[OPECJet]

I can't agree with that either, but some are better than others. 914 is a total piece of crap that the company ought to be fined for flying. 906 is a good airplane since it was totally re-rigged.

As far as the rumor about the 200's leaving, I doubt it. Always possible, but there are several on the market for lease or outright sale, and I can't see the lessor placing them at another company for more money than PDT is paying with that in mind. Even if they do go, I would imagine they'd be replaced with other 100s meaning no loss of jobs or flying. That's the most important thing.

 

[RJP]

Let me restate this again. At WP, we ONLY are allowed 1200 landings. But maybe some of you can contact our Ops and try to get 1050 landings approved for us. Thanks.

 

[OPECJet]

You guys have any kind of suggestion box? Might be a good place to start if you haven't already. It takes getting the paperwork from DH, and that might be the holdup over there. I'm not sure what the cost is, or how much your POI has to get involved. Couldn't be too much to prove to them since lots of other carriers do them.

BTW.. Any idea what the differences are in a -103 from the other -100's. Ours are 102's.

 

[FirstMate]

dont listen to firstmate

You're cut off from the sauce...

Yea, I agree, 914 is a piece of jazz. I think in general the -300's are easier to land than the -100's - just my preference.

OPEC, what kind of operational specific required a 900 landing? Its amazing how quiet that thing is when the props are left back.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

You're cut off from the sauce...

Yea, I agree, 914 is a piece of jazz. I think in general the -300's are easier to land than the -100's - just my preference.

OPEC, what kind of operational specific required a 900 landing? Its amazing how quiet that thing is when the props are left back.

I am guessing Beta Lockout Failure.

 

[OPECJet]

Right on.