Any Dash-8 pilots out there?

[FirstMate]

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I prefer doing 15/1050 and touch down with about 18-21% torque on touchdown. This usually results in a half way decent landing. Until recently, PDT preferred all landings to be 1200rpm...now they want to see us doing 1050's as long as conditions permit. I totally agree with the comment that some airplanes NEVER have pleasant landings. Most of the older -100's like 906-914 and some of the alg planes fly like trucks.

Not to hijack the thread, but are we losing the -200's and extending or picking up more -100's??

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Heard a rumor about the -200s going away, but that is about it. Nothing official.

I acutally think 906 is one of the better flying -100s we have. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

 

[OPECJet]

Sorry Ho. Flying with that dude is part of growing up.

You owe me a case if you got my 4 day. It was a good one.

 

[JohnnyP]

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dont listen to firstmate

 

[OPECJet]

I can't agree with that either, but some are better than others. 914 is a total piece of crap that the company ought to be fined for flying. 906 is a good airplane since it was totally re-rigged.

As far as the rumor about the 200's leaving, I doubt it. Always possible, but there are several on the market for lease or outright sale, and I can't see the lessor placing them at another company for more money than PDT is paying with that in mind. Even if they do go, I would imagine they'd be replaced with other 100s meaning no loss of jobs or flying. That's the most important thing.

 

[RJP]

Let me restate this again. At WP, we ONLY are allowed 1200 landings. But maybe some of you can contact our Ops and try to get 1050 landings approved for us. Thanks.

 

[OPECJet]

You guys have any kind of suggestion box? Might be a good place to start if you haven't already. It takes getting the paperwork from DH, and that might be the holdup over there. I'm not sure what the cost is, or how much your POI has to get involved. Couldn't be too much to prove to them since lots of other carriers do them.

BTW.. Any idea what the differences are in a -103 from the other -100's. Ours are 102's.

 

[FirstMate]

dont listen to firstmate

You're cut off from the sauce...

Yea, I agree, 914 is a piece of jazz. I think in general the -300's are easier to land than the -100's - just my preference.

OPEC, what kind of operational specific required a 900 landing? Its amazing how quiet that thing is when the props are left back.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

You're cut off from the sauce...

Yea, I agree, 914 is a piece of jazz. I think in general the -300's are easier to land than the -100's - just my preference.

OPEC, what kind of operational specific required a 900 landing? Its amazing how quiet that thing is when the props are left back.

I am guessing Beta Lockout Failure.

 

[OPECJet]

Right on.

 

[blzr]

A 900 landing would be very quiet, I have actually seen one done. not much different from any other app. It's the possability of a go around that won't get that one approved.

I flew with this old capt out of CHO that liked to do 1050/flap35 approaches. Talk about quiet.

 

[OPECJet]

Seen the 1050/35 thing done once.

900 RPM landings are approved for some operators as far as I know. I think DH sells the paperwork for it, and it does land nice that way. Don't have to carry power down to the ground. They'll be at flight idle before you touch. A lot like a jet.

 

[Der Kommissar]

I'm convinced that landing the Smash 8 here in Hawaii is luck. I sat through several spine crushers coming in to 4R at HNL, and then several greased landings in Kapalua. It's either a difficult plane to land or all the guys I rode with really suck. Then again - having the main landing gear on long sticks about 400 feet from the fuselage probably doesn't help!

... I think the key is to flare early, really pancake the mofo on, and then curse, "Dammit!" under your breath. Then again, if they put arresting hooks on 'em I think like 50% of WP would be right at home.

 

[OPECJet]

Heh, it has arresting props....

 

[PropPiedmont]

I've never had a bad landing in the Dash. I don't understand what you all are talking about.