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Pilotadjuster
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13.4S
Just installed the upgrade kit from Oregon Aero for my 13.4s and it seems to make a huge difference in both noise attenuation and comfort. Entire kit is about $100 and not hard to install yourself; consists of the head pad, foam filling for earcups (hushkit), soft seal ("memory" foam) earseals and the mic muff. Thus far the best headset I have worn, though that is admittedly a short list...
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Just installed the upgrade kit from Oregon Aero for my 13.4s and it seems to make a huge difference in both noise attenuation and comfort. Entire kit is about $100 and not hard to install yourself; consists of the head pad, foam filling for earcups (hushkit), soft seal ("memory" foam) earseals and the mic muff. Thus far the best headset I have worn, though that is admittedly a short list...
www.oregonaero.com
I have several friends who have the Bose as well as other ANR headsets. The Bose felt comfortable for me at first but then the small ear cups would start hurting my hears. The sound of the microphone isn't very good and the construction is poor. Three of them have been sent back for repairs. The lightspeeds are good but a bit bulky. They had some quality issues early on but, I think they've solved them. Noise Cancellation Inc. makes a really nice set for about $400. NCI also makes an uprade for your headset for about $170. I've done the upgrade to two of my headsets and love them. Afriend also did the upgrade to his DCs and also swears by it. If you like the way you're fits I would reccomend the upgrade instead of trying something that you might not like after three or four hundred hours, or less. A headset that is comfortable for one person may be terrible for another. Save your money. Spend it wisely.
FlyinBrian
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I have heard that some people don't like the mic. I've had not problems with mine, and ATC has never had a problem. I think the sidetone might just be quieter than most headsets. Unless your ears don't fit in the cups, I find it hard to beleive that those ear cups could hurt anybody. The seals are heaven on your face and the headset does not "clamp" at all. And the construction is probably one of the best out there in any headset, ANR or not. The only potential construction flaw that I could think of would be the plastic earcup yokes. They are built well, and are not a part that gets stressed under normal wear, but if you stepped on the headset or something, they may break.
Again, lightspeed is a decent headset, but the plastic headband needs to go. I will pretty much guarantee that thing will break eventually if you wear that set daily.
Aviator
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Telex ANR 1D
I'll second Sonic Cruzer's opinion. I've been using the Telex ANR 1D's for over three years now. The digital ANR is exceptional. I've had the chance to try many other headsets I feel they are superior to even the BOSE. For some reason, Telex did very little advertising on this model. www.spinnerspilotshop.com has a good price on them.
I'll second Sonic Cruzer's opinion. I've been using the Telex ANR 1D's for over three years now. The digital ANR is exceptional. I've had the chance to try many other headsets I feel they are superior to even the BOSE. For some reason, Telex did very little advertising on this model. www.spinnerspilotshop.com has a good price on them.
The Bose hurt my ear area but did not give me that clamping feeling. I'm going to stick with my poor quality feeling of the Bose. On two sets the headpads fell off. Bose has since redesigned the headpad. On one set something rattles in the ear cup. On another set the speaker just died. This is out of a sample group of six Bose Xs over two years.
ShawnC
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Consider the Sennheiser HMC-300, we use them in the Pitts and they are excellent. Overall they are pretty comfortable and cut down the noise alot. They are made to you can use the same headset with both panel power (for the few that own their own aircraft) and battery power, without changing the cord.
Comparing it the Bose and the Lightspeeds, I found that they are as quiet as the Bose and even quieter than the Lightspeed 15XL.
It costs $700, but you can find it for under $500 at Marv Golden. So for half the cost you have a headset that is as good as the Bose.
Too bad for me all I can afford are my Avcomm.
Comparing it the Bose and the Lightspeeds, I found that they are as quiet as the Bose and even quieter than the Lightspeed 15XL.
It costs $700, but you can find it for under $500 at Marv Golden. So for half the cost you have a headset that is as good as the Bose.
Too bad for me all I can afford are my Avcomm.
jetdriven
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I have had the bose series X for about four months now. I use them flying the be1900D on the line about 85 hours per month, at 6 hours per day.
THE PROS:
Absolutely the quietest, most comfortable headset out there. I have used the Denali, and the lightspeed QFR cross country in my search for the best headset. There is not a published NRR rating on the bose, but the QFR is about 45 dB and the bose is at least that. Bose is only 11.5 oz, among the lightest headsets out there, except for the QFR. The bose headband is hinged at the top, in the middle and it works great for comfort. Its almost like wearing a set of walkman headphones. After a 6 or even 8 hour day, when I drive home in my ealge talon, (a pretty quiet car) I think , **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**! this car is loud! I can hear the relay for the a/c compressor click under the dash going down the road!
CONS:
the price! at 995$ is by far the most expensive headset out there! I bought mine in a retail store in St Augustine FL, and applied for the bose credit card. 12 months no interest no payment. Lack of auto shutoff feature. Battery life. 9v alkaline battery lasts 25 hours (it depends on how loud the airplane is, and how much the headset 'works"). I rotate out three 9v Li-ion rechargeables and get about 10 hours per charge. Lack of passive noise reduction. if the battery goes out inflight it is just as loud as no headset at all. The mic has to be right almost in your mouth to speak.
THE VERDICT:
I would have bought the QFR cross-country except the thing hurt my head. QFR offers no gel ear seals and it squeezes my head. plus it felt flimsy and cheap. but the noise reduction is about the same, QFR also has very good passive reduction. At about 285$ its a good value. I wouldnt give up my bose headset for anything out there on the market today. they have a 30 day evaluation and if youy try it you'll be sold. I was.
THE PROS:
Absolutely the quietest, most comfortable headset out there. I have used the Denali, and the lightspeed QFR cross country in my search for the best headset. There is not a published NRR rating on the bose, but the QFR is about 45 dB and the bose is at least that. Bose is only 11.5 oz, among the lightest headsets out there, except for the QFR. The bose headband is hinged at the top, in the middle and it works great for comfort. Its almost like wearing a set of walkman headphones. After a 6 or even 8 hour day, when I drive home in my ealge talon, (a pretty quiet car) I think , **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**! this car is loud! I can hear the relay for the a/c compressor click under the dash going down the road!
CONS:
the price! at 995$ is by far the most expensive headset out there! I bought mine in a retail store in St Augustine FL, and applied for the bose credit card. 12 months no interest no payment. Lack of auto shutoff feature. Battery life. 9v alkaline battery lasts 25 hours (it depends on how loud the airplane is, and how much the headset 'works"). I rotate out three 9v Li-ion rechargeables and get about 10 hours per charge. Lack of passive noise reduction. if the battery goes out inflight it is just as loud as no headset at all. The mic has to be right almost in your mouth to speak.
THE VERDICT:
I would have bought the QFR cross-country except the thing hurt my head. QFR offers no gel ear seals and it squeezes my head. plus it felt flimsy and cheap. but the noise reduction is about the same, QFR also has very good passive reduction. At about 285$ its a good value. I wouldnt give up my bose headset for anything out there on the market today. they have a 30 day evaluation and if youy try it you'll be sold. I was.
mooneydvr
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Bose and Headset's Inc Upgrade
I have the Bose and think they are the best in the world. Some of you have mentioned that you have had troubles with the Bose. Call Bose up and send them back. They will repair them at no charge. I slipped on ice and broke mine, and they repaired them free of charge.
If you have 10-13.4, you should think about Headset's Inc (http://www.headsetsinc.com/). I upgraded my 10-13.4 and now use if for a backup. It isn't as good as the Bose, but it's tough to beat for $170.
I have the Bose and think they are the best in the world. Some of you have mentioned that you have had troubles with the Bose. Call Bose up and send them back. They will repair them at no charge. I slipped on ice and broke mine, and they repaired them free of charge.
If you have 10-13.4, you should think about Headset's Inc (http://www.headsetsinc.com/). I upgraded my 10-13.4 and now use if for a backup. It isn't as good as the Bose, but it's tough to beat for $170.
Flightcom Denali ANR
Someone asked about the Danalis. I have a pair, the ANR model. I love em! They are very light and the NR is very good in both active and passive modes. My only problem is forgetting to turn the ANR circuitry off after my flights which makes me go through batteries in a matter of days. DOH! When I remeber to turn the **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** thing off the batteries last me quite a while.
My only real complaing is the ear seals are made of slippery plastic. When flying in a C172 around in the middle of a Texas summer they tend to slide off your head if you sweat enough. I need to get cloth covers for them but I've not got around to it... haha. I asked Flightcom about it and they said they don't make cloth covers for the Denali as it would adversely affect the ANR. I can't imagine it'd be anything significant...
Someone asked about the Danalis. I have a pair, the ANR model. I love em! They are very light and the NR is very good in both active and passive modes. My only problem is forgetting to turn the ANR circuitry off after my flights which makes me go through batteries in a matter of days. DOH! When I remeber to turn the **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** thing off the batteries last me quite a while.
My only real complaing is the ear seals are made of slippery plastic. When flying in a C172 around in the middle of a Texas summer they tend to slide off your head if you sweat enough. I need to get cloth covers for them but I've not got around to it... haha. I asked Flightcom about it and they said they don't make cloth covers for the Denali as it would adversely affect the ANR. I can't imagine it'd be anything significant...
MSNFlier
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"Refurbished" Lightspeeds...
If you can hold out until this fall, perhaps you can snag a pair of refurbished Lightspeed 20 or 25XLs fairly cheap after they introduce their new 3Gs.
This is why: I went to Oshkosh this year, stopped at the Lightspeed exhibit, told them how much I liked my 25XLs and asked whether they were coming out with anything new soon. The sales guy showed me some literature on the 3G (I think that's what it was) and told me they were coming out in October or November of 2002. I asked how much they were going to run and he said that Lightspeed was going to offer them to 25XL owners for your 25XLs in trade plus $200.00. Don't recall whether he said anything about 20XLs, though.
I suspect Lightspeed will have a lot of already very satisfied customers take them up on their offer and near as I can tell, they're just going to offer the traded 25XLs as "refurbs. If you get mine, you'll get a set that's not beat up, works great and batteries do go for up to 50 hrs.
Wonder if Bose would do something like that for their current Headset X customers?
If you can hold out until this fall, perhaps you can snag a pair of refurbished Lightspeed 20 or 25XLs fairly cheap after they introduce their new 3Gs.
This is why: I went to Oshkosh this year, stopped at the Lightspeed exhibit, told them how much I liked my 25XLs and asked whether they were coming out with anything new soon. The sales guy showed me some literature on the 3G (I think that's what it was) and told me they were coming out in October or November of 2002. I asked how much they were going to run and he said that Lightspeed was going to offer them to 25XL owners for your 25XLs in trade plus $200.00. Don't recall whether he said anything about 20XLs, though.
I suspect Lightspeed will have a lot of already very satisfied customers take them up on their offer and near as I can tell, they're just going to offer the traded 25XLs as "refurbs. If you get mine, you'll get a set that's not beat up, works great and batteries do go for up to 50 hrs.
Wonder if Bose would do something like that for their current Headset X customers?
I've got a couple of thousand hours on LightSpeeds first 20K's now 20XL's. Worn them in everything in my profile plus some other stuff. They are comfortable. The ANR works well in almost all conditions.
Two negitives: first if you happen to flying anything open cockpit, they will not work. The noise from the airflow around the open cockpit, overloads the ANR circuits. This was proven to me in both a Yak-52 and Waco.
Second: if you are operating in extreme cold weather the plastic will shatter. I live in Barrow, AK and my 20k's disinigrated one day at -42F......
No, I wasn't flying the Waco in Barrow!
just my two cents....
Two negitives: first if you happen to flying anything open cockpit, they will not work. The noise from the airflow around the open cockpit, overloads the ANR circuits. This was proven to me in both a Yak-52 and Waco.
Second: if you are operating in extreme cold weather the plastic will shatter. I live in Barrow, AK and my 20k's disinigrated one day at -42F......
No, I wasn't flying the Waco in Barrow!
just my two cents....
Sonic Cruzer
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FlyinBrian
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I just went to lightspeed's website. I'm a little underwhelmed at the 3G series. It looks like the ANR is a little quieter, but other than that, it looks like the same old headset with personal audio and phone jacks. I was hoping they'd make some improvements in the materials and construction with their next generation headset. I haven't heard too many people complain about the lack of audio and phone inputs...
Anaconda
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