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Anyone have any info on a Cirrus that went down around HPN (White Plains)today? Sounds like the pilot pulled the chute and survived.
 

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Small plane crashes into Bowline Pond

By LAURA INCALCATERRA AND CATHERINE L. FOLEY

HAVERSTRAW — A small plane crashed into a Hudson River inlet at 4:41 p.m. today.

Reyes Pichardo had just gotten off work and was returning to his Edgar Street home when he saw the plane. Through a friend who translated from Spanish to English, Pichardo said the craft was flying from the west. The plane's parachute deployed and slowed the craft down, and a man inside jumped out as it hit the water, Pichardo said.

Details are still unfolding, but a preliminary investigation indicated that the engine failed, police dispatcher Brian Gaynor said.

The plane crashed into Bowline Pond, near Warren Avenue, in the village, Gaynor said.

Janitzio Santos was in the living room of his Jefferson Street home when he heard the crash.

"It was a pretty loud crash sound," the 21-year-old Santos said.

Jefferson Street faces the pond and when Santos went outside, he said he saw the plane in the water and a man swimming to shore. Santos went to retrieve his camera and in just those few moments, the plane had nearly sunk, only its tail still visible, he said.

Emergency workers converged on the pond, including area fire and police departments, and rescue boats from the Rockland County Sheriff's Department, the New York State Police and the Westchester County Police.

The U.S. Coast Guard sent the Cutter Penobscot Bay, and a smaller boat called the Aids to Navigation Team, or ANTS, to assist, Petty Officer Michael Lutz said.

Lutz said one person was recovered from the water by firefighters, and Gaynor said that man was taken to Nyack Hospital.

There were no reports of pollution from the crash, Lutz said.

The Cirrus SR22 fixed-wing single-engine plane was lost on the radar about 10 miles from Westchester County Airport, Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Arlene Salac told the Associated Press. The pilot issued a mayday at 4:40 p.m., she said.

The plane, tail No. 3452L, was owned by 52 Lima Corp., of New York City, she said.

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050630/NEWS03/506300410
 

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Air embolus induced engine stall?
 

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There are only airports everywhere you look around White Plains. Do Cirrus planes not fly or something without an engine?
 
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Godvek said:
There are only airports everywhere you look around White Plains. Do Cirrus planes not fly or something without an engine?


Unless he was real low that was my thnking too, many so called "saves" are just cover-ups for poor piloting skills. All in all they did save them but I believe better training would have as well. That and a Lycoming engine instead of pushing a Continental too hard.:D
 
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Do they decend too fast even with the parachute deployed? Why did he jump out? Was it on fire/smoke in the cockpit.

Did anyone else notice how they mentioned, "There were no reports of pollution from the crash." Who cares? The guy is alive.
 
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Metro752 said:
Do they decend too fast even with the parachute deployed? Why did he jump out? Was it on fire/smoke in the cockpit.

Did anyone else notice how they mentioned, "There were no reports of pollution from the crash." Who cares? The guy is alive.

READ, He may have run out of gas.;)
 
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I figured they put that in the report so all the jobless treehuggers who hang out at starbucks all day in NYC dont go out to the accident site to save the whales and penguins from the pollution.
 

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efferson Street faces the pond and when Santos went outside, he said he saw the plane in the water and a man swimming to shore. Santos went to retrieve his camera...

What a hero.
 

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The descent rate under a full parachute in the SR22 is about 1600fpm or the equivalent of a 13' drop. The front seats are designed to absorb up to 26g's and the back seats 16g’s. The gear is also designed to collapse on impact to help lessen the impact force. Once the chute is deployed the occupants are at that point, along for the ride. There is no way to cut away or control the way the aircraft descends. There has now been five instances where the CAPS has been deployed and there are 9 people that are still alive today that can attest to its value in a general aviation single-engine airplane.



Lycoming vs. Continental: Engines are mechanical things; they will fail on occasion no matter who makes them. A large majority of the common mechanical issues with the Cirrus have to do with the electrical system. I saw a Lycoming the other day that had a piston rod sticking thru the top of the engine. I have no complaints about the Continental; so far it has been one of the smoothest running engines that I have seen.



As for the pilot, if he ran out of gas he must be the biggest moron out there. The fuel management system combined with Avidyne system is the most accurate fuel monitoring system that I have ever seen in a GA aircraft. If it says that there are 18 gallons left, when you top off the tanks you will put in 63 gallons +/- 1 to 2 gallons (81 useable).



The Cirrus no matter what people may say or think really is a great airplane. Most people are just slow to warm up to the idea of an all composite, all electrical, high performance, glass cockpit airplane. This technology has hit the GA market so fast even the FAA is behind the curve with how to handle it. People that are now getting ratings in the Cirrus are in a lot of cases more knowledgeable about the aircraft than some of the examiners. The are only a handful of examiners out there that are really good in the Cirrus and most of them have less than 100 hours in it. The advent of Technologically Advanced Aircraft has really taken most people by surprise.
 

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We've been through this on other threads, but the Cirrus is a very capable aircraft that's simple and easy to fly, and just about anyone can get insurance. It's the doctor-killer of the 21st Century. Nothing wrong with the airplane, but low timers are taking all of that capability and flying in conditions that are over their head. The parachute is just preventing any Darwin Awards from being handed out.

In this case, who knows what happened, but I do know that one thing the Cirrus does *not* do well is glide. It's pretty horrible.
 

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My company is taking delivery on a sr22 gts late this month. my boss (student pilot) likes the idea of the CAPS system. He thinks that it will save his *ss no matter what happens, boy is he wrong.

To be honest I wasn't too en·thu·si·as·tic about flying the a/c but after the first flight I was hooked. For a single engine 4 seat a/c I'm amazed at the avionics package.

The only reason I can attest to using the CAPS system is for:

1.wing breaks off
2.controls system failure
3. engine out in imc

No matter what the reason is for this most recent deploy;
I'm glad nobody was injured.
 

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Metro752 said:
Why did he jump out? Was it on fire/smoke in the cockpit.
He probably jumped out when it it the water b/c he didn't want to be sitting in it when it sank. :)
 

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Metro752 said:
Did anyone else notice how they mentioned, "There were no reports of pollution from the crash." Who cares? The guy is alive.
Really?...that's the really swell side benefit of having an acute pneumatic embolism in the fuel system...no polution.
 

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TDTURBO said:
READ, He may have run out of gas.;)
Nahhhh...he may have run out of USABLE gas. :D
 

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Icelandair said:
Why wasn't the witness able to speak ENGLISH if he is here in the United States?

Have you spent any time in the Westchester/Rockland area recently? If not, I forgive you for not knowing the answer to your (obviously rhetorical) question.

And Metro, don't be silly, the jobless yahoos in a NYC Starbucks wouldn't know how to clean avgas off of the whales and penguins one finds in the Hudson River... Unless it involved a vanilla latte, which would cause them no small amount of hand-wringing, wondering if all those lattes would pollute the lake...
 

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Icelandair said:
Why wasn't the witness able to speak ENGLISH if he is here in the United States?

Hehe, I seriously envy you for not knowing any better. Must be nice to live in a world of everpresent tall, thin, literate, blond-haired, blue-eyed nordic chicks.
 

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